Author Topic: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle - NOW JOB PERFORMED  (Read 3078 times)

Offline kp4att

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Hi guys I love my new RWS 350 magnum .22.  I love the style and it size.... but..... It is too heavy at the front and I would like
to get a better weight balance WITHOUT cut the barrel.

I always hold my rifle next to the trigger guard to shoot.


There is another procedure or attachment to balance rifles?

Thanks in advance.


/ GERALD
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SUMATRA 500cc .22 - mira: Centerpoint 6-24 x 50 mm

MARAUDER .177 - mira: Leapers 8-32 x 56 mm (30mm)

RWS 48 .177 -     mira: Leapers 4-16 x 50 mm

RWS 350 .22  -  mira Centerpoint 3-9 x 50 mm

GAMO WHISPER VH .177 - mira BSA Panther 2.5-10 x 44 mm

953 .177 (INDOOR) - mira Simmons 3-9 x 32 mm

Offline RedFeather

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RE: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 05:58:52 AM »
About all you can do is weight the butt. Maybe removed the pad, carefully drill a hole or two and fill with something like lead shot. Another option that I haven't seen mentioned on the AG forums but is a useful aid in shooting heavy barreled muzzle loaders is a "Moses stick". This is a medium length staff that you can use while hiking/hunting. You grab the staff with your thumb and use the fingers to support the forend. Even a slender aluminum type hiking stick will work if it's long enough. And you can still go for the light artillery hold.

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Re: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2010, 06:37:34 AM »
I would not suggest cutting the barrel down... it will harm the rifles pressure curve/timing and if the barrel is choked (I don't know) it will definitely screw up accuracy.
RedFeather's weight idea and the shooting stick as well, both have merrit. That or move your off-hand a bit further forward... a hold right at the trigger guard seems a bit excessive for off-hand shooting, even an inch or two further forward might aleviate your balance issues.
You could also try a thick padded palm, match type glove... that would change the ergonomics of the hold quite a bit.

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C
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Re: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 07:07:13 AM »
If I'd have kept my 350, I'd definitely have weighted the back. Shot or bbs are a great idea. I've also used scale weights, but then my father was a toxicologist, so we had these lying around -- most people wont.
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2010, 07:34:49 AM »


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Dave



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Powerline 1000S .177 (semi-tuned by me)
Benjamin Super Streak .177/.22 (semi-tuned by me)
Benjamin Trail NP XL1500 (bone stock)
Benjamin Trail NP XL1100 (project gun)
TF89 .22 (tuned by Gene)
Winchester 1000WS .177 (semi-tuned by muwah)
QB57 (l

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Re: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2010, 07:46:08 AM »
Of all the suggestions given, I like Chris's solution the best. Moving your palm forward an inch or two will make a big difference with the 'artillery' type hold. Seach "how to shoot a B-28" in the China Gate. Mike gave a great post on holding the rifle at it's center balance point. I've used both, and have found my hold of the rifle is some what of a mix of the two holds. RF's idea of adding weight to the stock has it's merits as well. Definatelly worth looking into, and a hideable fix too!!!!
Personally, I don't think the B-28/Diana 350s's are really heavy,....just loooong. I'm not a large sized fellow either. If it were up to me, and with my particular shooting style, I would prefer the rubber butt-pad to be longer in the bottum providing more of a hook to catch under my front shoulder and bicept muscles. JMO, tjk
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RE: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2010, 07:49:24 AM »
He saying the weight is too far forward for his liking. You could also try one of the velcro'd warp-around pads designed for shotguns with the shell-holder loops. About $8 at Dick's. You can get a couple of dime rolls at the bank, slip them into the loops and see if it helps before drilling, etc. Or simply wrap something around the stock with a bit of weight attached. The shotgun wrap does not fit most of my air guns. (I don't see how it would even fit my shotguns, come to think of it.)

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Re: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2010, 08:06:51 AM »
Don't think you really can, without causing a real problem. Over time you'll get used to it, and won't even be aware of it.

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RE: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2010, 10:29:53 AM »
You can get cheap, if not free, lead/antimony alloy wheel weights at any tire mounting/balancing shop. The old wheel  weights they take off ususlly just get tossed in the trash.  

Paul.
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RE: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2010, 10:35:07 AM »
Red,

".............The shotgun wrap does not fit most of my air guns.  (I don't see how it would even fit my shotguns, come to think of it.)........."


Walmart also carries the shell holder sleeves. They're not east to get on, but they do fit. I have them on four of my shotguns and my .223.  

Paul.
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RE: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2010, 11:40:19 AM »


 



  adds weight to the breech .....!




Saludos kp4att!!!!

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Re: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2010, 02:33:27 PM »
Gerald, I hope you find the sweet spots to rest your 350 because it really is capable of bringing a smile to your face when you shoot it. You might try to go against the conventional wisdom and try resting the gun on a small shooting bag snug against the trigger guard with your off hand lightly supporting the forearm just in front of the bag.What have you got to lose?If you go afield and find it a chore to shoot off hand with this long tom 350, then try one of those "Moses sticks" or a conventional shooting stick.Good luck to you.

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Re: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2010, 11:36:20 PM »
Holy cow, Dave, those are ridiculous prices for weight sets. Never thought to look on eBay.
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: HOW???? I can change the balance of this rifle
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2010, 12:15:19 AM »
Yepper, CRAZY cheap. With free shipping no less. Seller also rated excellentwith almost 21,000 transactions!!!!
Crosman/Revelation 760 PumpMaster (Vintage 1967)
Powerline 1000S .177 (semi-tuned by me)
Benjamin Super Streak .177/.22 (semi-tuned by me)
Benjamin Trail NP XL1500 (bone stock)
Benjamin Trail NP XL1100 (project gun)
TF89 .22 (tuned by Gene)
Winchester 1000WS .177 (semi-tuned by muwah)
QB57 (l

Offline kp4att

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JOB PERFORMED....!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2010, 07:26:28 AM »
Hey guys I take very seriously my airguns. They must to have a very well cheek weld rest and now very well BALANCED.

So.... I asked for my RWS 350 MAGNUM . 22  solution for a better balance and I decided to do it.

I used fishing lead weights 14 pieces for a total of 31 onces.  The rifle is very heavy now....BUT BUT... It is very stable and

it is  easier to shot it than before, because is very well BALANCED!!!


Thanks guys for the recommendations:

/ Gerald


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GERALD (KP4-ATT): PUERTO RICO ISLAND!!!
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(Feb 3, 2010)
SUMATRA 500cc .22 - mira: Centerpoint 6-24 x 50 mm

MARAUDER .177 - mira: Leapers 8-32 x 56 mm (30mm)

RWS 48 .177 -     mira: Leapers 4-16 x 50 mm

RWS 350 .22  -  mira Centerpoint 3-9 x 50 mm

GAMO WHISPER VH .177 - mira BSA Panther 2.5-10 x 44 mm

953 .177 (INDOOR) - mira Simmons 3-9 x 32 mm