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Offline redroush00

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What would be the equivelant caliber-pellet vs bullit?
« on: April 19, 2010, 11:11:56 PM »
If you shoot a mouse with a 1000 fps 177 thats got to be close to a human being hit with a 50 cal. What would the rimfire caliber comparisons be between say a black bird, rabbit, raccoon etc vs bullits an a 150 pound individual?

Of course, shooting a Hippo with a 177 is probably no more than shooting a spitball at someone, if that.  :D
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RE: What would be the equivelant caliber-pellet vs bullit?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2010, 11:49:52 PM »
You couch the question in a funny way.  Do you mean, what is the ratio of the bullet mass to body mass?  And if so, is it a relevant comparison?  I doubt it.  It would probably be a better comparison to look at energy, not mass, and not just energy, absorbed energy.  That is, a projectile that stops in the larger, thicker tissue of a man delivers all of it's energy whereas a projectile that passes through a small varmint delivers only a fraction of its total energy to the target
Here is a rough estimate.

150lb man vs 1lb squirrel =  a factor of 150X mass

40 grain (22LR) bullet vs 8 grain pellet (.177) = a factor of 5X mass

40 grains @ 1250 fps =139 FPE , 8 grains @ 900 fps = 14.4 FPE, or a factor of 5X mass and 10X energy in FPE between a typical 22LR and .177 air rifle (energy = 1/2 mass x velocity squared, so energy goes up proportionately to the mass but increases as a power of 2 to the velocity.

150 x the mass of the 8 grain .177 pellet at 900 fps would be  1200 grains, 1200 grains at 900 fps, or 2159 FPE

a 7mm Rem Mag with 185 grain bullet at, what, say, 2500 fps (guessing) would be 2568 FPE

so, maybe one could make the comparison of whacking a 1-lb. squirrel with an 8 grain pellet to shooting a 150-lb man with a 7 mm Rem Mag, using proportionate mass as the factor, but I doubt that is a "fair" comparison.

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RE: What would be the equivelant caliber-pellet vs bullit?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2010, 10:34:09 AM »
 Dam Tommy.. Way ta get all technical and everything.. double thumbs up dude....
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RE: What would be the equivelant caliber-pellet vs bullit?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2010, 11:01:40 AM »
holy smokes Tcups are you an engineer or what? i dig your math boss.....

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RE: What would be the equivelant caliber-pellet vs bullit?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2010, 01:23:19 PM »
Hell... I thought everybody knew that..  :p  :p  8)  Thanks Tommy.
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RE: What would be the equivelant caliber-pellet vs bullit?
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2010, 03:53:53 AM »
That's some awesome math! Lol I know I'd hate to get shot with a 7 mag. And basically off this math my gamo hunter is the pellet rifle equivalent of a 7 mag! And my 350 would be along the line of a 338. Realy puts things in perspetive on how these little animals feel. And now that I think about it, shooting a squirrel with my 350 is like shooting a small deer with a 338! Wow that's overkill. I almost felt bad but then you can look at it as humane. It's definately getting the job done.
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RE: What would be the equivelant caliber-pellet vs bullit?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2010, 05:17:43 PM »
Man, you need help! :emoticon:  I can barely figure out the mpg on my truck! Very nice explanation.Thank you.
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