Sorry about the bad influence, Dan , hehe. If you hadn't traded me that grip and forearm set , I would have already put my other Talon up for sale too. and bought another AA400C in .177, but this time I'd get the adjustable power FAC model that comes with the shroud. I'm working on that one. I'd like to have a carbine in .177 that I could turn down to around 600 fps to shoot indoors this winter and turn back up when needed like the .22 cal classic does . I going to try some longer range bench shooting soon too and I'll post how it goes .BTW I am having an issue with my new classic. Yesterday , I filled the rifle to get it ready for today's shooting and when I took off the fill adapter, the check valve started leaking, I shot the pressure down on the gun , hooked it back up and opened the scuba tank valve a little quicker than normal , refilled , and the check valve started back to working correctly , but now the gauge on the rifle is not working half the time . I'm hoping all this is just a little bit of newness that will correct itself when the gun is "broken " in more. kirby