Almost got the riser, band and shroud. Finally decided to save my duckets and add that later if'n I can't live without it. I had a B50 for a short time and I didn't find it incredably loud, especially with the McMaster spring installed. I think my HPA QB is louder actually...and of course the Career 707 is a ear popper at high power:) Thanks for talking to me Barry, just talking about my airgun addiction helps me relax:) Now where's my gun, where, where, where????????????????????