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Weighing pellets, JSB Exact, .20 cal, deviations
« on: September 06, 2008, 02:01:21 AM »
In response to an earlier inquiry.

Weighed about the last 100 pellets in a tin of .20 cal JSB exacts on the new scale. The pellets were not labeled for weight on the container.  The library reference indicates that these are 13.65 grains. I repeated the weighing process of the first 20 pellets or so, and found very good reproducibility of the initial weight displayed, so I only weighed the remainder of the pellets once.

The pellets I weighed had a skewed distribution toward a bit heaver average, approximately 13.75 gr, range 13.95 gr to 13.40 gr with a single "ringer" that weighed 11.80 gr, but visibly was indeed a JSB Exact.  That's a magnitude variance of about .5 gr  (3.6%), or +/- 1.8 grains (1.8%), excluding the pellet weighing 11.8 gr).  More than a  few had some deformation of the skirt.  When I saw these, I used a pellet seating tool to straighten the skirt and then re-weighed the pellet.  At the end of the process, there were no free lead shavings left in the container.

Empirically, the R9GF still likes these pellets, but the next time I shoot for best groups, I will pick pellets from the same weight bin.  I also plan to run 10 of the pellets with the exact same weight over the chrony to check the velocity and calculate the FPE of the R9GF and check the variation of velocity and FPE  due to the springer independent of any weight variation in the pellets.  Variation in energy output of the springer and variation in pellet weight would be additive in effect with potential to cause variation in accuracy at the target, but on average, would tend to cancel -- it would seem just as likely to have a hot shot with a heavy as with a light pellet, for example, one result tending toward the norm and the other increasing the over all deviation.

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RE: Weighing pellets, JSB Exact, .20 cal, deviations
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2008, 02:12:46 AM »
Good work--I have been thinking about getting that scale since you first posted information about it. I even looked at the local sporting goods but all they had were the lyman like beam scales which I have. I buy way too many things and then not enough room to store them. I look forward to more posts on your findings.
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RE: Weighing pellets, JSB Exact, .20 cal, deviations
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2008, 05:08:00 AM »
Tommy the reason I asked is I have been weighing my CPH 10.5 . And I double checked against my old beam scale to make sure things were right . I use a RCBS range master 750 which has good reviews on it . The weight of the pellets has been consistent through several thousand . I would say 60 percent are 10.6 , 35 percent 10.7 with a few 10.5 and 10.8 . Marvin

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RE: Weighing pellets, JSB Exact, .20 cal, deviations
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2008, 09:19:59 AM »
Remember early on you telling me the CP's were consistent enough didn't need to be weighed.  J 3n00n knew immediately when I discussed with him that the JSB's varied in weight, but then J is "Worldbook Woodcock" for all things air gun related.  I am going to sort out an entire 500 round tin of the JSB's and also check out the variability of the Beeman TFS.  But didn't bring an air rifle to play with on vacation here in Hilton Head.  (I did manage to smuggle in the IZH-46A and the house we're renting has a fenced in pool, so I will probably be sneaking out for some late night therapy after the kids and grandkid are in bed).

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RE: Weighing pellets, JSB Exact, .20 cal, deviations
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2008, 09:42:02 AM »
I don't think that was me that said that . I still weight them after I wash and dry lube them. Good luck with the late night outings .Marvin

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RE: Weighing pellets, JSB Exact, .20 cal, deviations
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2008, 09:56:34 AM »
Hmmmm. . .  perhaps Machinist now that I think of it.  Remember talking beam scales with him.

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RE: Weighing pellets, JSB Exact, .20 cal, deviations
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2008, 11:13:38 AM »
I guess you have missed Hanna.
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