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NO retirement pay for elected or appointed officials
« on: September 20, 2008, 11:25:31 AM »
I maintain that NO elected or appointed public official on any level should receive retirement pay or benefits from their time or service.

They sought the job. They all had or have something else they could be doing that may actually produce something. Most paid money to get elected.

They can go back to the private sector and get a real job again or do what many elected officials do on leaving office, use the former position to lever money out of people.

None deserve retirement with the possible exception of former US Presidents. Them only if an actual financial need somehow arises.

The taxpayers would be saved Billions yearly if elected and appointed public officials received a handshake, a thank you and then quietly rode off into the sunset. No money from their service, just the satisfaction of having done their job and then turned it over to someone else for a term or two.

Those who are actually hired to work do get pensions and retirement. A wholly different thing as they are not elected. Too bad many of them do little to actually earn it but that is a different topic.

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Re: NO retirement pay for elected or appointed officials
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2008, 02:38:03 PM »
Nickel and diming professional politicians out of retirement would do a sad disservice to those who dedicate themselves to their communties by taking public office. A job is a job is a job. If you cant get a retirement out of your job, then the only way to secure your future would be through corruption.

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Re: NO retirement pay for elected or appointed officials
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2008, 03:10:27 PM »
Thank you, gunsup. Always wise to think a step past the measure, to the effect.
We still try to cultivate the citizen leader,  who comes from our own ranks. Doesn't always work out that way but the power brokers and brahmins aren't taking the job for the retirement bennies, let me tell ya.
What incentive does a motivated private citizen have to participate in government anymore? Some still do.
Or is the motivation always power and corruption, and thus all of our elected leaders must be punished? Is that a good system? There is no perfect world, but our system seems to function by recognizing precisely that.
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Re: NO retirement pay for elected or appointed officials
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2008, 12:30:56 AM »
Retirement pay for many elected officials far surpasses the pay they receive. Some pay as much as 5 Million $$$ for jobs that pay under $150,000 per year for two to six years. And we wonder why they can't balance a budget?

Let them run and serve a term or two and go back to the private sector. Retirement is for people who work, not volunteer officeholders.

There would be an increase in the quality of office seekers and greater variety of qualified people willing to serve if we opened things up and quit making it a cushy job with retirement benefits most of the rest of the US will never, ever see. Most in this country make less than their yearly health plan.

No retirement benefits for elected and appointed officeholders, with the possible exception of the President.

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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2008, 01:10:49 AM »
Hilarious! And very on topic!
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Re: NO retirement pay for elected or appointed officials
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2008, 01:12:28 AM »
Term limits would make this question a non-issue.  Just my 2 cents.

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Re: NO retirement pay for elected or appointed officials
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2008, 12:33:46 PM »
This subject has always bothered me. Most of us have to work 50 plus years to get a retirement and an elected official only has to work a hand full of years to get it. That is not right. And now the way the job market is turning, there will be very few people who will even be able to stay at one place for more than 20 years. And most places now do not offer any retirement at all. I think political retirement funds should be pulled.

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Re: NO retirement pay for elected or appointed officials
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2008, 12:35:05 PM »
I have to agree.
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RE: NO retirement pay for elected or appointed officials
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2008, 12:36:50 AM »


That's why north american society is in the toilet (I suppose some other societies too)....the people running them are lining their pockets after a few years in power. No other private company/industry give that kind of "package" for a few years of service.



A few years ago while Canada was in a recession, the govt told the citizens to tighten their belts. And then they have a closed-door meeting and increased their own pay and fattened their retirement package. GRRRRRR The closed door meetings are still going on....lots of time to fatten their own pockets.

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Re: NO retirement pay for elected or appointed officials
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2008, 09:32:40 AM »
I suppose this is what we get for having lawyers run or country.
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Re: NO retirement pay for elected or appointed officials
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2008, 09:33:53 AM »
I do like term limits.
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