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Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
« on: September 25, 2008, 04:57:28 AM »
This subject is under debate on another forum I frequent and it has gathered much attention given the current economic news and possible associated confoundments.  There are many links to source materials contained in the original article...to research them click on the source link.





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Several bloggers today have pointed to this obviously disturbing article from Army Times, which announces that "beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st [Brigade Combat Team] will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North" -- "the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities." The article details:

They'll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it.

They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack. . . .

The 1st BCT's soldiers also will learn how to use "the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded," 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

"It's a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they're fielding. They've been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it."

The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.

"I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered," said Cloutier, describing the experience as "your worst muscle cramp ever -- times 10 throughout your whole body". . . .

The brigade will not change its name, but the force will be known for the next year as a CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF (pronounced "sea-smurf").

For more than 100 years -- since the end of the Civil War -- deployment of the U.S. military inside the U.S. has been prohibited under The Posse Comitatus Act (the only exceptions being that the National Guard and Coast Guard are exempted, and use of the military on an emergency ad hoc basis is permitted, such as what happened after Hurricane Katrina). Though there have been some erosions of this prohibition over the last several decades (most perniciously to allow the use of the military to work with law enforcement agencies in the "War on Drugs"), the bright line ban on using the U.S. military as a standing law enforcement force inside the U.S. has been more or less honored -- until now. And as the Army Times notes, once this particular brigade completes its one-year assignment, "expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one."

After Hurricane Katrina, the Bush administration began openly agitating for what would be, in essence, a complete elimination of the key prohibitions of the Posse Comitatus Act in order to allow the President to deploy U.S. military forces inside the U.S. basically at will -- and, as usual, they were successful as a result of rapid bipartisan compliance with the Leader's demand (the same kind of compliance that is about to foist a bailout package on the nation). This April, 2007 article by James Bovard in The American Conservative detailed the now-familiar mechanics that led to the destruction of this particular long-standing democratic safeguard:

The Defense Authorization Act of 2006, passed on Sept. 30, empowers President George W. Bush to impose martial law in the event of a terrorist "incident," if he or other federal officials perceive a shortfall of "public order," or even in response to antiwar protests that get unruly as a result of government provocations. . . .

It only took a few paragraphs in a $500 billion, 591-page bill to raze one of the most important limits on federal power. Congress passed the Insurrection Act in 1807 to severely restrict the president's ability to deploy the military within the United States. The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 tightened these restrictions, imposing a two-year prison sentence on anyone who used the military within the U.S. without the express permission of Congress. But there is a loophole: Posse Comitatus is waived if the president invokes the Insurrection Act.

Section 1076 of the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 changed the name of the key provision in the statute book from "Insurrection Act" to "Enforcement of the Laws to Restore Public Order Act." The Insurrection Act of 1807 stated that the president could deploy troops within the United States only "to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy." The new law expands the list to include “natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition" -- and such "condition" is not defined or limited. . . .

The story of how Section 1076 became law vivifies how expanding government power is almost always the correct answer in Washington. Some people have claimed the provision was slipped into the bill in the middle of the night. In reality, the administration clearly signaled its intent and almost no one in the media or Congress tried to stop it . . . .

Section 1076 was supported by both conservatives and liberals. Sen. Carl Levin, the ranking Democratic member on the Senate Armed Services Committee, co-wrote the provision along with committee chairman Sen. John Warner Sen. Ted Kennedy openly endorsed it, and Rep. Duncan Hunter, then-chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, was an avid proponent. . . .

Sen. Patrick Leahy, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, warned on Sept. 19 that "we certainly do not need to make it easier for Presidents to declare martial law," but his alarm got no response. Ten days later, he commented in the Congressional Record: "Using the military for law enforcement goes against one of the founding tenets of our democracy." Leahy further condemned the process, declaring that it "was just slipped in the defense bill as a rider with little study. Other congressional committees with jurisdiction over these matters had no chance to comment, let alone hold hearings on, these proposals."

As is typical, very few members of the media even mentioned any of this, let alone discussed it, but Congressional Quarterly's Jeff Stein wrote an excellent article at the time detailing the process and noted that "despite such a radical turn, the new law garnered little dissent, or even attention, on the Hill." Stein also noted that while "the blogosphere, of course, was all over it . . . a search of The Washington Post and New York Times archives, using the terms 'Insurrection Act,' 'martial law' and 'Congress,' came up empty."

Bovard and Stein both noted that every Governor -- including Republicans -- joined in Leahy's objections, as they perceived it as a threat from the Federal Government to what has long been the role of the National Guard. But those concerns were easily brushed aside by the bipartisan majorities in Congress, eager -- as always -- to grant the President this radical new power.

The decision this month to permanently deploy a U.S. Army brigade inside the U.S. for purely domestic law enforcement purposes is the fruit of the Congressional elimination of the long-standing prohibitions in Posse Comitatus (although there are credible signs that even before Congress acted, the Bush administration secretly decided it possessed the inherent power to violate the Act). It shouldn't take any efforts to explain why the permanent deployment of the U.S. military inside American cities, acting as the President's police force, is so disturbing. Bovard:

"Martial law" is a euphemism for military dictatorship. When foreign democracies are overthrown and a junta establishes martial law, Americans usually recognize that a fundamental change has occurred. . . . Section 1076 is Enabling Act-type legislation—something that purports to preserve law-and-order while formally empowering the president to rule by decree.
The historic importance of the Posse Comitatus prohibition was also well-analyzed here.

As the recent militarization of St. Paul during the GOP Convention made abundantly clear, our actual police forces are already quite militarized. Still, what possible rationale is there for permanently deploying the U.S. Army inside the United States -- under the command of the President -- for any purpose, let alone things such as "crowd control," other traditional law enforcement functions, and a seemingly unlimited array of other uses at the President's sole discretion? And where are all of the stalwart right-wing "small government conservatives" who spent the 1990s so vocally opposing every aspect of the growing federal police force? And would it be possible to get some explanation from the Government about what the rationale is for this unprecedented domestic military deployment (at least unprecedented since the Civil War), and why it is being undertaken now?

UPDATE: As this commenter notes, the 2008 National Defense Authorization Act somewhat limited the scope of the powers granted by the 2007 Act detailed above (mostly to address constitutional concerns by limiting the President's powers to deploy the military to suppress disorder that threatens constitutional rights), but President Bush, when signing that 2008 Act into law, issued a signing statement which, though vague, seems to declare that he does not recognize those new limitations.  

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And history repeats itself thanks to misguided altruistic moral busy bodies who wish to sacrifice liberty for even the perception of security.

"Another source of power in government is a military force. But this, to be efficient, must be superior to any force that exists among the people, or which they can command; for otherwise this force would be annihilated, on the first exercise of acts of oppression. Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive." - Noah Webster, An Examination of The Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, Philadelphia, 1787


"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms." - Tench Coxe in "Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution." Under the pseudonym "A Pennsylvanian" in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 at 2 col. 1.

"Those, who have the command of the arms in a country are masters of the state, and have it in their power to make what revolutions they please. [Thus,] there is no end to observations on the difference between the measures likely to be pursued by a minister backed by a standing army, and those of a court awed by the fear of an armed people." - Aristotle in An Argument Shewing,
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RE: Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2008, 08:26:49 AM »
Why don't we send this to the daly show and let jon stewart get on it!!! :p

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Re: Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2008, 12:17:14 PM »
i was just having a very similar conversation on the way home from work with a friend of mine, God help the US if the Army(military) tries to start stomping around my town.

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Re: Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2008, 05:09:18 PM »
This is why there should be political discussion.  Too many not knowing what goes on in Washington DC. Many things have been changed under the current administration and supported by those maybe having 2nd thoughts should the antigun Democrats be elected. I recommend author James Bovard's books should you want the elucidation. 'Terrorism and Tyranny' and 'Attention Deficit Democracy' are good examples. I support Impeachment of Mr. Bush, but do hope justice comes to him in some way.  jeep98

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Re: Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2008, 08:31:22 PM »
Under the POSSE COMITATUS ACT, The armed forces of the United States CAN NOT take up arms against the Citizens of the United States, in armed conflict. Yes troops can be called up for crowd control but only under the control of the States Governors who request their help like the Nat Guard, in disasters and riots. There are Laws on when and how American Troops can be used with in the United States. With that said, under the Patriot Act, nothing would surprise me anymore, wait till the New National ID Card is put in place, the only thing holding it up is several States have refused to comply with the Law to in act it. The UK has just announced in the past few days, that they have it in place, and have warned all non citizens to comply with the law in the UK or get out of the country. Sounds like something we fought a war over to prevent in WWll, but it is coming and will be in place in the next 2 years here in the US as the law stands now, oh I for got the Patriot Act says it will be in place, when you go to get a new Drivers License do not be surprised if they take your finger prints, and use a new EYE Scan which will ID you quicker then your finger prints, this is all part of getting the new National ID Cards in place. Just remember the lines from many years long past, PAPERS PLEASE< PAPER PLEASE, no Papers come with me. It will be here sooner then later. And there are few if any voters that will question what is going on, they just follow like sheep, another time in history. Yes History does repeat it self. Leave the United States on vacation, and try to come back in with out a pass port and see what happens and how long it will take you to get back in.
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RE: Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2008, 12:15:48 AM »
I didn't know about this law being passed. Now that I do it bothers me.

Section 1076 of the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 changed the name of the key provision in the statute book from "Insurrection Act" to "Enforcement of the Laws to Restore Public Order Act." The Insurrection Act of 1807 stated that the president could deploy troops within the United States only "to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy." The new law expands the list to include “natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition" -- and such "condition" is not defined or limited. . . .


No matter who the POTUS is, IMHO the powers of the Executive Branch are out of control.  Congress is out of the picture on too many important decisions.
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Re: Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2008, 04:39:12 AM »
when the twin towers went down they didnt even get called upon civil servants did there job why didnt they think of this then,it scares me cause i live in nyc.

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RE: Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2008, 01:19:35 PM »


Hey All,



Can anyone here think of two reasons that the President would want a Brigade of armed and trained troops posted here in America ?



That's 3000 to 5000 troops, tanks, howitzers, mortars, and oh so much more !



The financial out come of this crisis ?



The results of the Presidential Election ?



Or Rats in the White House ?

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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2008, 01:42:41 PM »
Look it up...  might explain some things.  Might also explain all those un-occupied FEMA camps they're preparing across the country.
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Re: Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2008, 03:49:57 AM »
i wanna thank all who shinned there knowledge here at the forum cause to tell u the truth i live in nyc and no one knows anything about the crisis that taking place this is the firist time i here about this. people here in nyc live with no fear from the dramatic experiences we are going through and the one we faced,1993,2001@now thank u all..this was A WAKE UP.

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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2008, 04:16:56 AM »
In mid-September the Army were doing exercises in downtown Rising Star, Texas where I live.  My girlfriend called me at work to tell me about it.  They were parked downtown, were directing traffic, going business to business, setting up roadblocks(although were waiving people through)...

...they did it twice in early September.

We're a small town of 900 people, we're a farming community and out of the way of congested vehicle traffic.

Spooky stuff, eh?
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RE: Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2008, 11:18:18 PM »
http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2008/10/01/the-truth-about-the-armys-homeland-deployments/

Some additional info.

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The Truth About The Army's Homeland "Deployments"




October 1st, 2008 by CJ

I've gotten emails from many sources, including my father, about the decision to "deploy" Army units and assign a brigade to Northern Command. The unit will be known as the Consequence Management Response Force (CCMRF). The Army Times is the main instigator in spreading the news about this, but I've seen it on other blogs and news sources (I get Google News alerts anytime "Army" is mentioned). According to the Army Times,

Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

But, that's not really what concerns most people in the emails I've received. I spoke today with Army Lt. Col. Robert Cunniff and of U.S.Northern Command's Future Operations Division, Directorate of Operations, Peterson Air Force Base, Colo. and Army Col. Lou Vogler of U.S. Army North's Future Operations Division, Directorate of Operations, Fort Sam Houston, Texas, about this very issue. I'd like to set the record straight and end the misinformation and concern out there about this.

The concern that most people I have I think comes from this excerpt in the article:

The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.

I specifically asked about this point to reiterate, even though the article clearly states that the nonlethal package will not be used for domestic purposes. I think most people are missing that little one-liner. The article confuses training that the unit, like many other units within the Army, is being fielded for non-lethal means. This equipment - batons, tasers, beanbag bullets, etc - will be used in deployed, overseas environments. COL Vogler was very specific that this package "will NOT be used in homeland missions."

One thing that people need to understand is that whenever the military does anything, we always want to be safe. Naturally, our Soldiers will do what they have to in order to protect themselves while performing these missions in support of homeland agencies. I would expect that non-lethal means are used to protect our troops from dangerous or unruly Americans who just want to agitate.

Here's the bottom line about this issue. 1BCT, 3rd Infantry Division's, or CCMRF, mission is simply to provide a "capability to support civil authorities" in the event of a disaster or CBRNE (Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear and high-yield Explosive) event.

"These forces are in a federal status and will operate in strict compliance with laws and federal authorities", said Cunniff. "With the purpose of saving lives and mitigating human suffering." This assignment will NOT violate any of the provisions of the Posse Comitatus Act in any way.

The CCMRF (pronounced "sea-smurf") is not going to serve an automatic role. There are basically three ways in which this active duty Army unit will even be used: if requested by a local, state, or federal agency in response to a disaster or CBRNE event; as ordered by the Secretary of Defense after conferring with these agencies; or if ordered into service by the President.

85% of what the force will do is common to leadership and integration and standard military tasks. Coordination is being conducted across the country where incidents are more likely to occur so that local leadership and the civilian community will not be scared seeing a bunch of camouflaged troops in their town in event of a need for them.  

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By Paulette on Oct 1, 2008

Several of "my" soldiers are in 1BCT and have been training for this. They just home from Iraq in April. And like the true professionals that they are, They will be ready to go when called. Rock of the Marne
 

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By Roman General on Oct 3, 2008

I will never think that having the regular military deployed within our borders is a good idea. The executive orders of the last two years have set the ground work for a military "intervention" as prescribed and interpreted by the commander in chief and answerable to no one, absolute power has been consolidated. When has this ever been a good idea?

As the laws stand right now, one man can say I invoke marital law and commandeer the country bypassing and foregoing any judicial or congressional oversight. Without having to explain or a clear indication of a threat to its citizens except to "say" that a national security issue has arisen.

It sets an extremely bad precedence and mechanism for our own troops to be used against its citizens. Yes they may have "nonlethal" means to "subdue" its citizens. But now that our military can be used to quell riots or demonstrations, which was how our nation was founded and every major civil rights and liberties were won, we will see abuses of this power. Do we really have confidence in the benevolence of our leaders in Washington to act in our best interest? Huh, hello, the bailout!

The Posse Comitatus Act has been completely circumvented, even thought it still stands the executive orders of late have set very loose interpretations without oversight as to how and when federal forces can be used inside our borders.

I do not doubt the intentions of our troops, it is the consolidation of powers that I question and do not trust. As it stands right now ONE person can cease control of our government, nation and its assets in the name of national security without a damn good reason to do so.

The only way I see this as acceptable would be a scenario of regular military forces invading our country and a temporary order of command during such incursions.

The actions taken of late are permanent and set the stage for absolute control, a despot, supreme rule. The complete mechanism for rule by decree has been set.
 

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By Henry on Oct 3, 2008

Roman General, thank you for a very clear exposition of the State of the Union.

I fear that too many citizens of the U.S.A. are incapable of or unwilling to understand what you have described. They'll understand when they personally have their liberty and nation is taken from them. Too late, too late….

I am very worried about the health of our nation.
 


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Maybe they are planning something for the election?
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2008, 11:32:11 AM »
By "they" I mean I the Cheney/Rove White House.  Or Queda, but Queda was notibly absent for the last contentious Presidential election, as was the 3rd Brigade.

Or maybe they are just protecting our freedom?  No hurricanes in the forecast.  

McCain is behind in the polls, but the Army can't be here for that reason...  Maybe we have plenty of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan now and they are home for some R&R.

A lot of planning is going on before an important election.  You think the financial stuff can get even uglier?  Or does Queda have an election surprise?  Nah, too convenient for Queda.  The timing is too close to the financial crisis and the election.

I read about the FEMA gulags waiting for residents.

My eyes are opened to this, and I see it as a threat, not a comfort.


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RE: Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2008, 09:17:58 AM »
It might have something to do with Mexico. As that country is becoming a candidate for a "failed State" due to drugs war, seperatists in the south and corruption in the capitol maybe the brigade is to "close" the border between the US and Mexico?
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Re: Why is a U.S. Army brigade being assigned to the "Homeland"?
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2008, 01:17:39 PM »
Bill is partially correct. It is not just the election which in itself will be the straw that broke the camels back but we are headed into probably our second Depression. Now for most all of us the word Depression does not mean much but for some of us older peeps, we remember the hardships that our parents and grand parents went through. Crime will go up 10 fold. There will be people stealing food to survive and there will be food lines and places that the people capable to work will go to and wait for work each day. I normally am not this negative but we are in for very very hard times. And I am not the only person who knows this. I am sure our Government new this 4 years ago or longer. In the first Depression the police and FBI had to do most of the work but now that we such a big nation the FBI andpolicewill not beenough. Our Government will deploy military to help in the most serious area's like Los Angeles, New York, ect etc. Gene
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