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Offline only1harry

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Took the 850 .22 out for a walk
« on: October 23, 2008, 06:45:10 AM »
I have not shot the 850 .22 since August so I took it out and went through a magazine shooting at my 25yd target.  She 's still holding zero and rewarded me with a very tight clover group.  

Later after lunch the wind subsided and it felt a little "warm" but it was still in the high 40's.  It just didn't feel like it.  I have only seen 1 squirrel in the last 10 days but today I got an urge for squirrel meat again and for something to shoot other than paper & wood.  I checked the usual windows around 1pm and as soon as I put the blind up on one of them and push the window up 1" so I can hear better, a squirrel starts barking.  After 5min. I could not locate him but had an idea where he was.  I decided to go outside with the 850 .22 and walk around the wooded area in the back of my house on the 40yd long small hill in search of the nutter.  

I could feel the gun getting cold walking from tree to tree looking up and I 'm thinking that the 850 will probably be shooting a little weak today, probably in the high 500's.  I was trying to estimate the ft-lbs in my head when I spotted movement!  It's a good size squirrel and its behind looks nice and fat hopping from branch to branch heading away from me.  It would pause for 2-3secs on each branch not giving me a chance to line up the crosshairs on it, or when I 'd make a step or two towards it, it was on the move again.  It was getting very close to the end of my property and now I picked up the pace.  I got off the hill and started walking parallel to it faster so I can close the gap.  It finally stopped on the last tree before it enterned the neighbor's property, and about 5 trees deep up the hill.  I got within 24-25yds of it where I had a clear shot at it and decided to take it off-hand standing.  I had the A/O adjusted to 25yds before I came out and the view was clear and seemed to be right on.  The squirrel was mostly broadside but its head was behind a small branch covering at least 3/4 of it, so I decided to go for a neck shot.  He had not stopped for more than 5secs when I squeezed the trigger and sent the 14.3gr CP on its way.  I heard a loud "thunk" and the squirrel fell about 30ft to the ground where he proceeded with a small death dance lasting about 3 to 4secs at the most.  He did not move much at all from where he landed though.
 
He had fallen almost at the top of the hill bordering 2 different properties.  Pain in the neck neighbor on the left and another in the back 40ft beyond the hill.  It was my first time shooting anything that far in that corner of the hill and near those trees, although a raven I got a few weeks ago was close to that spot but not that far.  I climbed up the ~40deg. incline to claim my prize, through thick brush, tall trees, & many dead limbs some of which seemed to form nests or good natural cover for some animals.  I stopped for a moment to familiarize myself with the trees and surroundings in that corner of my property.  Found a new groundhog hole I didn't know was there but it seemed abandoned with cab webs at the entrance.  That's hole #22.  Picked up the squirrel and my cell phone rang. It was my neighbor 3 houses down.  What timing!  He wanted to know if I had seen any more possums and if I had shot any more squirrels!  I said get ready I 'm on my way over with one right now :)  I had printed out some recipes off the web and from some people here and had given them to him about a week ago, so lets see how he cooks it this time.  This is a meaty one although it may not look like it from the pics.  He is very round and full and feels heavy.

The 850 in completely stock form has not disappointed me yet although I always try and use it within 25yds for fur.  Seeing how the pellet did not go all the way through the nutter, I will keep to my policy but who knows what the next encounter will bring.. Besides, I doubt it was shooting more than 11fpe in 48deg. weather.  PCP-like accuracy and light, easy to handle, with 100 full power shots, it's perfect for a "walk through the woods", preferrably in not so cold weather :-)
Springers:
Diana 36 .177
Diana 350 .22 (donated by Timmy!)
Diana 350 .177
PCP\'s:
Air Force Condor .22 (Airhog)
Air Force Condor .25 (Talon Tunes)
Air Force Condor .25 (Lemak)  
CO2/Pump:
RWS Hammerli 850 .22
Crosman 2240 Custom .22
A few Crosman pumpers .177

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Re: Took the 850 .22 out for a walk
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2008, 08:14:44 AM »
Harry nice clean shot with the nice 850.  Excellent hunting story, shooting and photos.  Have any co2 shooters ever thought of stuffing one or two of those chemical hand warmers around their cylinder to keep the air warm?  Might be dangerous?......I really don`t know.....but it could keep your airguns shooting in colder weather.  Just a thought.
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Re: Took the 850 .22 out for a walk
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2008, 08:56:45 AM »
I 've never thought of trying that but I don't own any such things anyway :)  This is why they make Springers & PCP's - for the Fall & Winter.. hehehe  
Seriously though I don't mind.  I usually keep the 850 by the radiator in the winter time and it shoots just as well (12+fpe) out the window as it does in the summer time.  I just try not to let it stick out into the cold for more than a minute or two.  The barrel only comes out after I have visually acquired the target and I know I 'll be taking a shot.  I wouldn't mind shooting the critters with a couple of less ft-lbs, but it's the POI that is affected above all, so I don't do it.  I hate zeroing the scope all over again so I try to shoot the 850 "warm".
Springers:
Diana 36 .177
Diana 350 .22 (donated by Timmy!)
Diana 350 .177
PCP\'s:
Air Force Condor .22 (Airhog)
Air Force Condor .25 (Talon Tunes)
Air Force Condor .25 (Lemak)  
CO2/Pump:
RWS Hammerli 850 .22
Crosman 2240 Custom .22
A few Crosman pumpers .177

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Re: Took the 850 .22 out for a walk
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2008, 01:49:43 PM »
Fine shootin Harry and a great pic....  

I've always wanted to get an 850,,,, when summer rolls around again I may have to pick one up....

Keep whacken em buddy and keep postin those great pics....


Jeff
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Re: Took the 850 .22 out for a walk
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2008, 02:44:38 PM »
Great story Harry. Been thinking about getting a CO2 just to have one in the collection. Sharp looking weapon, and nice shot too. I prefer the pump-house/spine hits myself.....if I can get them of course?!?!?!?!? LOL's tjk
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Re: Took the 850 .22 out for a walk
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2008, 04:41:33 AM »
Thanks guys,

Jeff:  Do you really need another airgun?  :-)  
It's weird.  I have not seen too many used ones 4sale.  The few I have seen are HPA modified with the frame cut or some other cosmetic change, or have a very long barrel (for higher velocities) or something else that changes the appearance of the gun.  I don't think I have seen more than 1 or 2 stock 850's for sale in the last 8mos or so since I 've been checking the Yellow Classifieds daily.  

Thomas:
When I use "lower" powered airguns (12fpe & under) I usually try to go for a head shot if I 'm close, or necks shots if I 'm farther out, in hopes of severing the spine in the neck and/or hitting a major artery, and avoiding the tougher cranial bones.
This shot actually did both when I examined the squirrel inside, just where the neck begins above the shoulders.  I 've had good luck with this method even with 5.5-8fpe guns, but sometimes I do aim for the heart/lungs if my view of their head & neck are obstructed and I 've been lucky with that so far too.  Both methods work well.
Springers:
Diana 36 .177
Diana 350 .22 (donated by Timmy!)
Diana 350 .177
PCP\'s:
Air Force Condor .22 (Airhog)
Air Force Condor .25 (Talon Tunes)
Air Force Condor .25 (Lemak)  
CO2/Pump:
RWS Hammerli 850 .22
Crosman 2240 Custom .22
A few Crosman pumpers .177

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Re: Took the 850 .22 out for a walk
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2008, 08:20:21 AM »
Right you are Dave,...both methods work very well and efficiantly. Besides head shots are the ultimate challenge. It's one thing to plink beer cans and spoons at the practice range, but it's a whole different game when shooting prey in "less than ideal" conditions.....hills, slopes, etc, etc. May as well throw the "range" principles and disciplines out the window,......to a degree that is.  I will say that I've taken plenty of BT's with head shots,...and when I do,... way, way, coool, but....... I've learned that with the pump-house shot, sooner or later that rascal will give up the ghost and tumble to the 'terra firma'!!!! LOL's Patience is key. tjk
397 Benji-98\' model    
Marksman  0035, My Fav!,CDT T\'d
Crosman Sierra-Pro,.177
Benji 392 08\'
CDT TT\'d RWS 34 .22,CP 4-16X40 AO
MM T\'d Marksman 0035
Crosman G1 Extreme
Daisy PowerLine 1000
TF-97 .22
B-28A MM T\'d
B-28 OEM Tuned by me
Beeman .22 RX-2 w/Theoben GR
Beeman .177 R1 Santa Rosa

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Re: Took the 850 .22 out for a walk
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2008, 02:32:47 PM »
Im with you Thomas,, SQ. heads are a nice sized target overall,,,, the "fuse box" however is VERY small. Im just not as good a shot as Jeff,, Ed,, Harry,, & many others here. Now,, a Deer head at 15 yrds. presents a nice sized target!! (Top head shot) Did I say that out loud?? LOL!!  Just Funnin!! Nice shootin Harry,, been playin round with my "gassers" lately also,,, gots a new 2240 project Im shure you will LOVE!!He He!!  What were Ya getin out of your 2240  10" brl. 22 again?? Im gettin 500 fps./14.5 Super Domes stock valve,,, 585 fps. B&A valve, (14.5" 22 cal brl.) Nice hunt Harry,,,,, Man I need to call Ya Buddy!!  You ever get your 350 back from Curtis??????? He seems to have fallen off the face of the earth??   Tim.

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Re: Took the 850 .22 out for a walk
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2008, 02:41:54 PM »
ya know, some ppl take those pistols an convert them into 9mm...now THATS a pistol...tim, a really powerful pistol seems like it just needs to be in your colection.

Dave
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Re: Took the 850 .22 out for a walk
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2008, 02:44:50 PM »
Thanks Tim,

Don't remind me!  He 's not returning my messages.  I thought you spoke to him regularly and I was counting on you to get me a status on my gun! :-)  

My 2240 gets 485fps with JSB Jumbos and 500fps w/14.3-14.5gr pellets at 77deg.  I don't mind.  It's a 10yd (maybe 15) bird gun for when they walk by the window with their head down.  Something about those spots on a Starling that makes me want to shoot it :-)  Come to think of it, there 's not much I don't want to shoot!  :-)

BTW, you 're too modest!!  I heard you can shoot through a ring up in the air with those pistols of yours!  

So did you get another one?  You know, besides the one that you accidentally hit with your truck? :)
Springers:
Diana 36 .177
Diana 350 .22 (donated by Timmy!)
Diana 350 .177
PCP\'s:
Air Force Condor .22 (Airhog)
Air Force Condor .25 (Talon Tunes)
Air Force Condor .25 (Lemak)  
CO2/Pump:
RWS Hammerli 850 .22
Crosman 2240 Custom .22
A few Crosman pumpers .177

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Re: Took the 850 .22 out for a walk
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2008, 09:31:34 PM »
Fine shootin with the 850 Harry, might have to wrap here up to keep her warm on the next hunt.:) Great pic and laying next to the nutter might have warmed her a touch. Ed
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Re: Took the 850 .22 out for a walk
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2008, 04:31:13 AM »
Thanks Ed.  I think that squirrel was a little cold during the pics :)  

The 850 shoots around 620fps with 14.3/14.5gr pellets in 77-80deg. weather and 605-610 in room temp. like 70-72.  The lowest I got over the chrony was 550's when I came inside from 30deg. temps.  That was after I had shot at a crow at 30+yds and saw the pellet hit low past it after aiming at its head :)  I had forgotten all about the cold temps as I spent several minutes in my porch trying to get a shot off.  I just need to be mindful of the temps and aim higher, but ever since that day, I just keep it by the radiator and it's nice & toasty and only take it out or point it out a window when I know I have a shot.  It's long overdue for the heavier hammer spring mod so it can get into the 650's.
Springers:
Diana 36 .177
Diana 350 .22 (donated by Timmy!)
Diana 350 .177
PCP\'s:
Air Force Condor .22 (Airhog)
Air Force Condor .25 (Talon Tunes)
Air Force Condor .25 (Lemak)  
CO2/Pump:
RWS Hammerli 850 .22
Crosman 2240 Custom .22
A few Crosman pumpers .177