IT'S A SAD NIGHT, AND GOD, PLEASE BLESS AMERICA

[Curioguy]

Oh, goody, goody, I want to be just like the Europeans. Why in the heck did my grandparents leave Utopiafor this oppressive “downright mean country”? Now I really hate them for that! OK, I know that things are different now than they were 100+ years ago. And all that blood that was shed during WW2 wasn’t in vain. Call me old sentimental fool who lives in the past; I know that I deserve it. So let’s all kiss and make up so that we can all live under “one world order” were life will be beautiful, bountiful and the evil rich, like of George Soros, will pay for everything .

[TCups]

Brilliance?  Or more money than ever spent on a Presidential campaign in our history?  Or unfettered media bias in favor of one candidate?  Or ACORN assisted voting?  Or voter ignorance? . . .

If there was an organized intelligence driving Obama's election campaign strategy, it was surely enumerated best and most concisely by Saul Alinsky in "Rules for Radicles"   Haven't read it?  You should.  It outlines the recipe for social revolution working inside the American political system by co-opting the middle class to support the underclass and discrediting any who oppose by ridicule of their leadership and coercion.  Explains why most Americans oppose change except in time of crisis and how to go about fomenting a crisis to achieve political ends.  Great reading.  Something like this:  Discredit Bush.  Jack gasoline prices up precipitously weeks before the election to trigger financial collapse of the subprime lending markets and eventually the entire financial system, blame Bush and the Republicans for the entire mess, and promise "Change" and "New Directions", and have the new government sweep in to power to "fix" the crisis.  Revolution with no shots fired.  Gotta love Saul.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

[PeakChick]

Well, I'm usually remiss to comment on political threads but this whole election process has exhausted me and I'll vent one last time. I know Tommy thinks I'm a liberal, but I didn't drink the Kool-Ade and vote with the uninformed masses. Nonetheless it appears the majority was sorely tempted by the offered beverage of "Change."  
So, the Democratic Party has the Oval Office and a majority in both houses of Congress. Let's see how badly they can muck things up. Of course, they will just blame their woes on inheriting all the problems that the Republican Party supposedly created and that party's interference in their quest for "reform" and "change."
I love the references to "free," "universal" health care mentioned previously in this thread. Apparently some folks have never been to Europe or any other country that has a socialized medicine system and tried to obtain health care there. I have seen countless horror stories of waiting lists, fighting for beauraucratic approval for care and treatment, beauraucratic denial of care with no recourse for appeal, etc. Oh, "free?"  I'm not sure the folks who espouse the "benefits" of the semi-socialism that exisits in Europe really understand just how much of their income it costs them in taxation....Can you think interms of 50-60% of your income?
Ah well, we'll see what comes down the pike.........

[Bhawanna]

60% taxation, $8 a gallon gas, no right to own a firearm, limit airguns to 12lbs, limited freedom of speech, 12% unemployment, outrageous real estate pricing.....BUT THEY HAVE FREE HEALTH CARE!!!...

[3n00n]

Gee? I wonder what's in store for us next?

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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1954933468700958565&hl=es

[TCups]

Dear, sweet PeakChick:

I have no problem with liberals.  It would perhaps surprise you to hear some of my social positions.  But I am a staunch, free market physical conservative.  I love my country, but I fear my government.  I feared our government under Bush 43, Clinton, and Bush 41, even under Regan, and certainly under Carter.  I fear continued unfettered expansion of government, government spending, taxation, and intrusion in all areas of the free market and a nation of "Free" people.  Those "Freedoms" came at a very, very dear price and should never be squandered.  I fear the change, the speed with which government is about to grow and spread, will come like a fatal malignancy.  I fear socialism disguised a "Change" and served up on a platter for those too weak minded to understand or to resist what has been lost (no, surrendered) in the name of "Change".

[airgun/cuz]

I attempted to submit my opinion to this topic & decided not to,,,,,only because I  know that it would create waves

I just have one simple question,,,maybe two:
1) If McCain had won ,would he be acknowledged as: The 44th White-American President ?      ANSWER: NO
Explain: It would be considered: RACIST!!!!!

2A) Why is Obama acknowledged as:  The first African-American President, instead of The President Elect ?    ANSWER: TO BE DETERMINED.

2B) Is Obama not also White-American ?   ANSWER:  YES

2C) Does he not consider himself to be White-American? ANSWER: WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Explain:  YES WE CAN!!!!!!!!

                                                             :p  :emoticon:  

[Gene_SC]

My good friend's and buddy's Stephanie, Bill and Tommy have exposed what has been hanging behind the curtain for the last year.. Oh and of couse the Democrats are for socialized medicine and those people who voted the way they did will be crying before long about the paychecks they now get do not go as far as they did in 2008.. Those are the same people who voted themselves into higher taxation. Democrats for the most part are for bigger government as well. That means more useless programs to spend our hard earned money. I should be the last one to complain because I am retired and pay no taxes any longer.Of course I do pay house taxes and taxes on everything I buy.  But my children work and are a long ways from retirement and they are gonna have it very hard. And the word CHANGE is one big word that means let us suffer with the consequences.

I could say allot more but do not want to get this topic going out of hand.

[Bhawanna]

Change......Creating..Huge...And...Numerous...Government...Expenditures..

[timofb]

some of you guys should start by watching Michael Moore films that's 1st, he lays it all out there how it is with facts.  One of his last films is about health care and it is the truth I have experienced. And perhaps some people you know had to deal with this. The sick truth. Gestapo like health care system for profit. Someone profits while you suffer. And please don't call yourself Christians or Passionate Conservatives (still don't know what that means by the way, I love god but i have no problems voting for the war and killing 200,000 Iraqi civilians) if you support this type of health care that we have.

But then again some of you may like paying for insurance companies CEO's jets or Sara Palin clothing worth 150k. But hey she will post for some of you with a gun just to make you feel better spening your tax dollars.

And another thing Obama got 60% of electoral votes, that means if it were direct elections he would have gotten like 90%. That means something. America is changing for the better... I hope so.

[WBZsDAD]

Ahhhh, Michael Moore........That explains it

'Nuff said

[daveshoot]

Gestapo like health care system? Not sure what you know about the Gestapo, but that is overstated to the point of being meaningless. I reckon you meant "expensive" and it just came out as "Gestapo". Were you tortured or imprisoned, or did you just feel ripped off in some way? Are there any degrees of appropriate rhetoric? Once the government gets involved, the rhetoric may be more apt. Every new law and every new tax is another reason for a Federal gun in your face someday. Don't pay your new tax and you will find out. But then, only the payers will need to worry about this one. There will be more.

edited to point out this just appeared under PeakChick's post but was a polite response to timofb's post.

[Timmyj1959@yahoo.com]

NOT 150 K clothes. She is a rock. You want change ,,, she would have brought it on!!  Being the male "Pig" I have been most of my life,,, I can understand the penis challenged being threatened by her  I  respect her & hope to see her again soon. This is a woman that "Could Have,,, Got Er Done!! Dont throw rocks in YOUR OWN GLASS room Folks. :0  Dont give me that superficial "Gun Thing"  This "Chick" is for real!!  The majority has spoken,,,,,,,, who the Hell were they by the way? I hope Sara stays VERY active. And John,,,,, an American HERO... A veteran of War,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Do you really think he had less than the best interest at heart for this GREAT Country??? Course,,,,, "Everyone" said he was another George Bush:? Yeah,,,, George Bush is the ONLY reason for our latest problems,,,, GROW UP FOLKS!!!!!!! :p  Yeah,,,,,,, I guess "King George" caused it all:? Makes me sick to see the disrepect the "Sheeple" put upon George ,,,,,,, "W" as you call him.  He aint perfect,,,, check yer closets folks. I dont care who the president is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I show respect,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Im still gonna do that. Lets get this "Change" on the way,,,, Im waiten:?? Oh,,,,, I do place my hand on my HEART during the Pledge,,,,,,I do remember "A Moment of Silence",,,,& I have NO PROBLEM with wearing the Flag of my Country!!!!!!!! Free health care?? Only BRAIN DEAD people can believe something so rediculous. I am however,, goin to get me some "Free" food stamps now,,,,,,, gonna make my truck payments with em!!LOL!! :emoticon:  I dont know squat bout politics,,, I did however stay at Holiday Inn last night!!   Tim.

[TCups]

Well, in my opinion, Al Franken is more the intellectual type than Michael More, but perhaps you are correct.  Hope! Change! Here's to your (public) health, sir.

[timofb]

Tim I know that there is nothing FREE in this world. Government money is our money. All I am saying is this, instead of paying money to health insurance companies that run the medical operations, they tell doctor's what to do, they don't pay em, dump sick people, deny people insurance with pre existing condition and... on and on. I experienced this, believe me it is horrible.

I am saying that instead of paying monthly for health insurance that is not made for the people but to rip people off, we can all  pay into one Medicaid fund or something. So everyone gets covered and gets timely treatment. Just like we have police and fire department when you need help they come, they don't ask you. "And what type of insurance do you have?" Comes out of our tax dollars, but do you have a problem with this? And I would be willing to pay for someone that can't pay $150 or so, so  people will have regular check ups, to  catch problems early. You guys speak how bad the Europeans have it, but United States has the worst health care system out of all the western nations that costs 3 times as much, because of who the insurance companies, and greedy doctors, that are not even doctor's more like car salesman.

If you are fine with this all I can tell you, is I hope that not you and no one in your family gets very ill so you don't have to experience this. Believe me food stamps won't do it. And they don't give it everybody that easy lik ethey say. They won't even pay social security this freaken government you have to hire an attorney to get your money.