Author Topic: Bolt sizes for Quest/Sierra/Storm, etc  (Read 2020 times)

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Bolt sizes for Quest/Sierra/Storm, etc
« on: December 01, 2008, 03:17:45 PM »
The three bolts that connect the action to the stock are:
M6x1.0 for the trigger guard one
and M5x.8 for the front two

I like 12.9 grade Allen Head Cap Screws soooo much more than crappy phillips!

I put a wee flat washer under the front two in order to get a bit more surface area clamping against the wood, my pretty black allen heads stick out about 1/16" but they have more wrench engagement than the lower profile rounded-top ones so they will not strip. And they are black, which matches the action. And the scope. And scope mount. And buttpad. You get the point. They are beefy and i love them!

The sizes above are Probably correct for B18/19 and clones, but dont quote me.

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Re: Bolt sizes for Quest/Sierra/Storm, etc
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2008, 11:28:49 PM »
I did the same thing with one of my old marksmans. Allen heads are so much better than flats and phillips head screws. Like you said, it looks beefier and more heavy-duty. Might try that to my Sierra now!!!!! tjk
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I seem to remember...
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2008, 08:13:50 AM »
...that the lengths are 12mm on the front, and 20mm on the rear.

Mcmaster carries M5x12 (gr 12.9) with a wider, shallow head that looks a little like a wide pan-head screw with an allen socket in it. They don't stick out at all.

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Re: Bolt sizes for Quest/Sierra/Storm, etc
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2008, 02:24:36 PM »
i know exactly which screw youre talking about, i bought both the rounded (pan head?) and the cap head. the cap had twice as much depth in the allen socket. You are right on the lengths, but i used 16mm front because of the washers.
 TJK (tim, tom? err) do the front screws come from the factory with washers? I forget..

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Re: Bolt sizes for Quest/Sierra/Storm, etc
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2008, 11:56:55 PM »
Yes, the front screws are used with split lock washers. I got some allen bolts yesterday while on a job site, but they were too short for my comfort zone. Here's a trick if you can't find 11.5/12mm lengths, if you do find some too long (say 14mm, 16mm, etc), get two nuts and run them up the screw until you get the desired length (best to match it with the factory screws length). The first nut is to lock against the second nut to keep it from moveing. Saw/file off the excess threading. Now untighten the nuts some and  remove them. As you remove them, they will clean and deburr the sawed portion of the bolt. If you still encounter some roughness on the bolt end, a slight rubbing on emory paper should remove any remaining burrs. Run a nut back on the bolt to check and test that the threads are clean (burr/junk free), then remove and you should be good to go. A word of extreme caution though. Look to make sure you place the new bolt in the correct angle to the threaded hole in the action. Then turn the bolt backwards until you feel the bolt click. This should tell you if the threads are alinged correctly with the hole. No need for excessive force here,  just do it by 'feel'. Start turning the bolt forward,...Slowly!!!! If you feel any resistance, back the bolt out and inspect the begining of the threads to ensure that you aren't cross threading the hole. Most machined bolts of this type have a thin coating of paint(??, usually a black finish)) so some resistance will be normal at the beginning. Just take your time and don't be in a hurry!!!!! tjk
PS While at the dollar store, I picked up one of those lazer beam shooters with a flexible LED flash lite. They're small with a pocket clip on them, and they come in real handy for looking into small places like stock screw holes, barrels, etc.
397 Benji-98\' model    
Marksman  0035, My Fav!,CDT T\'d
Crosman Sierra-Pro,.177
Benji 392 08\'
CDT TT\'d RWS 34 .22,CP 4-16X40 AO
MM T\'d Marksman 0035
Crosman G1 Extreme
Daisy PowerLine 1000
TF-97 .22
B-28A MM T\'d
B-28 OEM Tuned by me
Beeman .22 RX-2 w/Theoben GR
Beeman .177 R1 Santa Rosa

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Re: Bolt sizes for Quest/Sierra/Storm, etc
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2008, 04:44:35 AM »
yeah ive been using the nut-backing-off method for a while.
 Now that ive learned my front screws came with washers maybe the ones i bought were a bit long, but they dont bottom out, so its all good :)