Ok guys I got round balls

[tjk]

Just my two cents here folks, but I would be a little nervous about using lead round balls in any rifled barrel. Especially those that are expensive, or ones I've invested $ into,...tunes, trigger, etc. If the barrel is tapered or chocked, wouldn't that squeze the ball out of the muzzle and deform it causing eratic accuracy? I don't know. However,  I would gladly  try them in a gun like the  Gamo Viper that has a smooth bore!!!!  tjk

[riflejunkie]

I've had the Gamo .177 lead BB's for some time.  I haven't used them on any critters but I do think they hit harder than the regular gamo pellets and I assume that is from being heavier, (but heavier than what?).  I have my doubts as to their accuracy compared to a skirted pellet, but I did't do a real comparison because at the time I got these lead BB's the only other pellets I had were Gamo's as well.  I've had Gamo match pellets that were so undersized that they fell completely through and out of the barrel when I put them in the chamber.

[geewhiz380]

the black lead balls r good for pistol use only  i use it on my gamo p23 and yes they do penatrate well at 10 yds .i caught a rat the size of a cat and it was about 5yds and that ball hit em right between eye and ear and that rat took two steps and dropped me and my son looked and it was a big hole.they good for close range on airpistols,.i still have like three tins but since its winter co2 doesnt work well. the .177 do penetrate if they have em in the .22 version then you have a killer but i would try in the rifle unless it was a rifle that took bbs cause of the round shape.they work excellent in bb guns

[JOHNNY QUEST]

geewhiz380 - 12/9/2008  12:28 PM

the black lead balls r good for pistol use only  i use it on my gamo p23 and yes they do penatrate well at 10 yds .i caught a rat the size of a cat and it was about 5yds and that ball hit em right between eye and ear and that rat took two steps and dropped me and my son looked and it was a big hole.they good for close range on airpistols,.i still have like three tins but since its winter co2 doesnt work well. the .177 do penetrate if they have em in the .22 version then you have a killer but i would try in the rifle unless it was a rifle that took bbs cause of the round shape.they work excellent in bb guns

 You hit the nail on the head.. My Whisper shot a 1.5 inch group at 22 yds.  Buttt my 2240 with 18 inch barrel was stackin em at 10 meters..  Its my rat splat shooter now anyway I will try them on the next furry rodent that makes the big mistake of showing himself....They have been designated pistol ammo now...

[shadow]

Keep us posted Randall, interested to see the results.:) Ed

[JOHNNY QUEST]

shadow - 12/9/2008  5:45 PM

Keep us posted Randall, interested to see the results.:) Ed

 Ed you just wanna see the big bloody hole in em.. lol    Rat killin this weekend I HOPE..I purty much cleaned out the crop tho..  I have been spreading Cracked corn and sunflower seed in big amounts. So hopefully after a few days some sort of wildlife, NOT THAT I AM PARTICULAR, should show up...

[gunsup0331]

JOHNNY QUEST - 12/9/2008  6:02 PM
.............. Rat killin this weekend I HOPE..I purty much cleaned out the crop tho..  I have been spreading Cracked corn and sunflower seed in big amounts. So hopefully after a few days some sort of wildlife, NOT THAT I AM PARTICULAR, should show up...

LOL you are so unabashed about your sinister intentions.







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[Jaymo]

Well, mine are kinda oblong and......Oh, you're talking about LEAD BALLS. Yeah, I have a tin of .177 Gamo lead balls. I need to get some .22 lead balls. Thought about buying them in the form of shot from Midway USA.

[ronbeaux]

That my Breaux!! He'd travel to Iceland to shoot Puffins.

[scotsman]

FWIW...I'm thinking of the muzzle loading .32's of Kentucky fame....patched RB's at supersonic speeds just do best with a slow twist...about 1 turn in 60". Of course, conicals have the better BC...but lots of game falls to the round lead balls. ( have fun cutting those tiny lil patches..lol)

[RedFeather]

Roundballs are about the least efficient projectile design.  They shed speed rapidly.  That's why the old Brown Bess smoothbore muskets were only good up to about a hundred yards.  Besides knuckle-balling down range, they don't have a lot of retained energy.  A lead conical will outperform the roundball every time.  Now, a really BIG roundball driven with a lot of powder can and has taken elephant.  But we are talking maybe a two bore gun (two balls to the pound).  So, a roundball in a .22 gun, while heavier than a pellet, won't do as well unless at close range.  Another thing about roundballs is they tend to pass around hard objects like thick bones or bounce off.  A flat nosed pellet will deliver more of its retained energy into game.

Muzzle loaders use a slow twist for roundballs due to the roundballs's shape.  The Greenhill forumula for rate of twist uses length and width.  Generally, longer bullets require faster twist.  If you shoot roundballs in a fast twist gun, you have to reduce the powder charge or else the roundball will strip the patch and "skip" on the lands.