I'm probably a wierdo. (Gun control in here too.)

[Tony Mullinax]

Since the Riflejunkie come from the same train of thought, it's the right of the people to protect themselves for a tyranny.

[Gene_SC]

I am sure glad you stepped up to the plate on this one Charlotte.. YES GUN CONTROLE IS AN INFRINGEMENT ON OUR FREEDOM TO BARE ARMS. If we do not fight back we will be just like the Brit' and Aussies.....Our Government is like Cancer, you give it an inch and it will take all your rights away.

[Hermie]

Republicans need to follow that as well... Give them an inch to invade personal lives by, say, overturning Roe V. Wade, they'll go to extremes and invade your bedrooms and private lives further.

[riflejunkie]

Well, I'm just going to pound this one into the ground.  "The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is just a fancy way of saying there will not be a restriction on owning/posessing guns.  How do you create any kind of restriction without violating the 2nd amendment? You can't.  We should have a class action lawsuit to repeal all gun laws as a violation of our 2nd Amendment.  We are supposed to have guns to scare the hell out of politicians and the IRS.
Definition: Infringed
1. To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate: infringe a contract; infringe a patent.
2. Obsolete To defeat; invalidate.
v.intr.
To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing: an increased workload that infringed on his personal life.

[Hermie]

What needs to be done is stricter penalties and more investigation on illegal distribution of guns. Keep them out of criminal hands and in the hands of the honest public.

[Big_Bill]

Yes Michael,

We need a War on illegal firearms, just like the one We have on Drugs !

I'm sure that this will stop all illegal firearms from entering the country, just as Prohibition Stopped the use of Alcohol in the United States.

What we need to do is stop dealing with the criminals, and putting them away for a long,long time !

But you know,,,,It's much easier to create laws that will make honest citizens criminals, because we are so much easier to catch !

If you really want to keep GunsOUT of Criminals Hands, you would need to cut off their hands.

Bill

[Hermie]

I guess you missed my point...

I know that most gun crimes are done with illegally obtained weapons. So, logically, to avoid taking rights from the honest public, find these illegal distributors and lock them up.

I'm all for the death penalty as well, provided there is concrete evidence, without a shadow of a doubt. Don't need people getting zapped then later proved innocent.

[Big_Bill]

What you apparently missed Michael,

Is that criminals always find ways to surcomvent the law. Just as Drug Dealers, Bootleggers, Prohibitionists, cigarette smugglers, smugglers, and arms dealers all around, do so well, and on a daily basis!

Criminals ARE Criminals because they do not abide by any Laws at all, Only Their OWN Laws !

Apprehend one and several will quickly take their place.

[gunsup0331]

Hermie - 2/15/2009 2:58 PM Republicans need to follow that as well... Give them an inch to invade personal lives by, say, overturning Roe V. Wade, they'll go to extremes and invade your bedrooms and private lives further.

If you think that the goal of Republicans(more so than Dems) is to invade your private life you are wrong. "patriot act" was ridiculous, ill give ya that. 99.9% of abortions are pure unadulterated murder. You think its ok? See ya in hell. Ill probably be there too but not for supporting the murder of God's children. The "paranoia" you refer to is actually well grounded fear of government control. You spout things like "well, i think they should "round up illegal distribution of firearms"" Thats what the ATF was supposed to do but they would much rather kill innocents and harass citizens. (google) To say the founding fathers wrote the Constitution specifically for their time in history without thinking into the future is ignorant and a slap in the face to those who designed and those who now protect your freedoms. "obama's not comin after our guns.." jesus kid, what kool aide party did you stumble out of?

[Hermie]

Not the Paranoia pariy, that's for sure.

I never said the goal of Republicans was to invade your private lives, but they regularly attempt to. The fact that they claim to be for small government and yet are for the greatest ammount of personal privacy violation than any other party labels them as hypocrites, and I refuse to support them.

If Republicans ACTUALLY STUCK TO SMALL GOVERNMENT AND STAYED OUT OF PEOPLE'S BEDROOMS, I might actually like them.