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Offline Gamo X-Ring Shooter

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Anyone Know about a Beeman SS1000
« on: April 15, 2007, 12:11:32 PM »
Hi I was just wondering if anyone could tell me what they thought of the Beeman SS1000.  I am looking for a good break barrel .22 airgun to use for hunting and this one got my attention.  I was also looking for something around 200 and this one was only 189 with a scope.

Brian

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Re: Anyone Know about a Beeman SS1000
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2007, 12:14:18 PM »
I think it is made in China. I do not know anything about them except I think there Beemans low end and low priced air rifles to compete with Gamo and the likes..

Gene
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RE: Anyone Know about a Beeman SS1000
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2007, 12:45:06 PM »


Hello Mr. Gamo,



 I have a Beeman SS1000 in .177 caliber. To make a long story short bypass the SS1000 and get this http://www.sportsmantarget.com/onlinestore/nfoscomm/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_34&products_id=219&osCsid=8d306202e61f1693a9a3ae6de2a12a07



It has a copy of the rekord trigger is a nice looking gun and you wont have issues like I am having right now with my SS1000. If you are interested in hearing my woes with the SS1000 gimme a holler and I will email you the story.



John

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I think I can help...
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2007, 01:12:12 PM »
The SS series Beemans are Chinese copies of rifles made by Norica of Spain. Oddly enough, Beeman also sells the Norica rifles under the GS and GH designations.

The Spanish (Norica-built) Beemans are the GS950, the GS1000, and the GH1050. The primary difference is this - the GS950 has a plainer stock and a weaker powerplant (I suspect it's similar to the old S1) but (I think) a very decent trigger mechanism. The GS1000 had a larger powerplant and the good trigger. The GH1050 also has a strong (maybe stronger) powerplant - but a rather poor, "direct-sear" trigger that breaks at around 6-7 lbs and is non-adjustable.

The Chinese copy the last two rifles - the GS1000 and GH1050. Their copy of the GH model is called the Beeman SS1000 model 1050H, and their copy of the GS rifle is ALSO called the Beeman SS1000 (with some other model number). How can you tell the difference? If the rifle has a "two-stage adjustable trigger", that's the better one. If the trigger is NOT adjustable, that's the model 1050H... and do NOT believe the garbage about its having a "two stage" trigger. SOME RETAILERS DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE! I know, because it happened to me... what I ordered was described as having the better trigger - what I got was the crappy one. Overall, it was a lousy shooter and I was able to return it.

Now, the better Beeman SS1000 is ALSO sold under 2 other brand names. It is sold by Compasseco as the TF89 for something around $160, but it is ALSO sold as the Industry Brand AR1000. THEY can be bought from http://www.dauvensfishinhole.com for about $82 (either caliber). It can be a very decent rifle for the money - BUT if you get a bad one from Dauven's, there's virtually no service or parts support. This does NOT apply to the Compasseco or Beeman variants - and I suspect that's why they're more expensive.

The Norica model that is sold as the Beeman GH1050 has also just been introduced by Umarex USA as the "Hammerli Storm", and is available from http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com for about $132 (which, incidentally, is about $40 cheaper than the Beeman version). Umarex USA is essentially RWS USA, so warranty support is there. I've got one of these in .22, and it is a very good rifle - if you can live with the trigger. I can tell you that the Hammerli is better made than the Chinese copy (SS1000 1050H).

If you scroll below, you'll see my reviews for the Hammerli Storm and the AR1000. If you can afford the risk, the AR1000 in .22 is tempting. If you get a good one, it should satisfy your needs for both power and accuracy. Otherwise, the Storm is a safer bet - if it had a better trigger, it would be a fantastic rifle for the money in my opinion.

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RE: I think I can help...
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2007, 01:20:31 PM »
Thanks for the info.  I think that I will take a more in-depth look at the Storm.  You mentioned that the trigger was pretty bad on it.  I don't know if it will work but I think you should talk to Charlie da tuna.  His GRX-III trigger worked wonders on my CFX.  If it would work on this gun it would definitely be worth the $35.

Brian

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No, absolutely not.
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2007, 01:27:32 PM »
The Storm has a "direct sear" trigger, like Fast Dear or an Industry B1/B2. There's really nothing you can do with it other than polish and lube the surfaces. If you mess with the angle you can lighten the trigger pull - and risk turning the gun into something that will fire on its own.

BTW - the barrels interchange on the Norica guns and their Chinese counterparts. When I had barrel trouble on my AR1000, I could have easily fixed it with a replacement barrel for a GH1050 or GS1000. Unfortunately, the replacement barrel was well over $100.


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Re: Anyone Know about a Beeman SS1000
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2007, 01:45:24 PM »
Hey Vince.......... Another fantastic exlpanation and discription of the various like models..

Thanks again for sharing.

Gene
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RE: I think I can help...
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2007, 02:07:22 PM »


Wow Vince someone did there homework!!And I guess by what you are saying... My wally world SS1000 is the 1050H model. I drew a pic of the trigger assy with some notes to Da Tuna man to see if he might have any suggestions as to what I might do to correct the piece of smiley happy thingymahjiggerbob trigger assy. I will post the pic here in this reply for everyone to get a clue to the crappy direct sear trigger.



John

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Just be careful...
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2007, 12:02:37 PM »
As far as I know, there are no service parts for the SS1000. I suspect there are for the Hammerli Storm or the GH1050 - and the triggers oughta interchange... but check first. If you booger something up, you'll want to be able to replace it...