FX or Daystate?

[Zzyzx]

Am looking to move to PCP rifles as the strain on shoulder/tendons from cocking is a problem. Not the pellet rifles fault, other things caused it but the cocking aggravates the problems.

In looking I watched the Marauder with interest. In searching I came up with some alternatives I am very interested in. The FX cyclone and Royale 400 as well as the Daystate Air Ranger. I want a lot of power coupled with very good accuracy. I want a rifle that will last and the grandkids will have long after I am gone. I definately want a repeater so I am not laying in the weeds with a dead gopher 30 yards in front of me and have two others standing around while I try rolling a bit, loading one pellet at a time while cocking the thing. A repeater is what I believe will help the situation.

Power for long range shots and very good accuracy. That seems to be the deal with the Daystate Air Ranger, the one that will send 60fp of .22 cal lead downrange into the head of a badger, skunk or racoon. I want a rifle capable of better accuracy than I am. Maybe I can grow into it but either way it sure can't hurt to have the precision available.

I understand more as I go along that power alone won't do it. For coyotes I have the /06. For night riders from the Rez I have the .357. For the pigeons, gophers, crows and pests I want a damn good pellet rifle. Something a lot finer than the Walther Falcon Hunter I am currently using. Harsh and stiff even as I am putting a lot of lead through it and am getting good kills. The cocking is a killer for the shoulders...

So, the FX and Daystate are serious contenders.  All I really know is what I read about them. Have been spending a lot of search time on various forums and these keep coming up as top quality.

Anything really any better? Actually better, with greater accuracy while hitting as hard as these?

[kiwi]

Evanix AR6 is a repeter...65fpe with 32gr pellets..

Pete

[dw33]

Yeah, if you can afford a Daystate that would be nice, or a Theoben, or.....?  There are so many nice rifles out there.  But, I would not go with the AR6 as many have mentioned how loud it is.  Couldn't go wrong with a Marauder though.

[kiwi]

dw33...you are right they really bark....
I forget how loud they are...mine
has a atatchment on the barrel..

Pete

[Rolls-Royce]

Hmm, I'd have thought that firing a .30-06 would be tougher on a tender shoulder than cocking a springer.  But if you have powder-burning options available without frightening the neighbors, the noise from an Evanix probably won't be an issue for you.

[Zzyzx]

The cocking motion is what aggravates the problem, not the recoil. One jars the shoulder and the other puts stress on the joint as well as aggravating the tendonitis.

I have looked at the AR6 and had that on my short list. After looking at the FX/Daystate the AR6 looks very rough in comparison.

I like the repeating aspect of them all. A quick follow up shot for when I don't hit just right as well as second and third shots for the pests that hang around watching the first hit animal.

The higher quality rifles appeal to me in many ways. Why not get the best I can as I will be using it often and will feel good about passing it on later.

[Magnum]

I have an .22 FX cyclone synthetic stock.. It is very quiet, accurate and powerful it has 3 power settings you can use, depending on what your shooting. It is an amazing high quality PCP and would recommend it highly ... it also is a light weight and means I can carry it for miles:) One thing you may want to think about is the pump or tank issue, I use a Hill pump with moisture filter because of humidity concerns in my area, my kids are not heavy enough yet to use the pump you need body weight to do it properly ... I still don't mine the exercise part of the pumping:) With your shoulder concern you may see if you can try pumping before you buy a pump? may have to go the tank route? I think I saw some good PCP info in the GTA library section Too:)  Good luck and maybe will see you on the darkside, Tony.

[kiwi]

Zzyzx - 8/21/2009  3:54 AM

The cocking motion is what aggravates the problem, not the recoil. One jars the shoulder and the other puts stress on the joint as well as aggravating the tendonitis.

I have looked at the AR6 and had that on my short list. After looking at the FX/Daystate the AR6 looks very rough in comparison.

I like the repeating aspect of them all. A quick follow up shot for when I don't hit just right as well as second and third shots for the pests that hang around watching the first hit animal.

The higher quality rifles appeal to me in many ways. Why not get the best I can as I will be using it often and will feel good about passing it on later.

Yes the AR6 hasn't got the styleing of the daystate or FX...or other PCPs
But they were designed to eradacate monkeys in the Korean citys...
Hense the nick name "Monkey gun"
They had to be a tough reliable work horse....
You wil NOT fined a plastic componet any where on one...
And I have tryed....

Pete

[Zzyzx]

In talking with some at Pyramyd and Airguns of Arizona I am not too sure about the AR6 with its great power. I love the idea and was looking hard at it. Folks from both places tell me that going much over 50ft lbs in a .22 pellet rifle effects accuracy. They said to keep things at 50 or under(as a general rule) and accuracy is much better.

Is this reality?

Just like so many things the ideas are simple but delving into them to make an actual decision gets complicated.

[PelletPaul]

Josh I have both the FX and Daystate.  Been traveling the last four months or so and just now getting back home.  First up is the FX Cyclone.  This airgun is a real shooter as Gene would tell you. Lightweight, quiet, accurate, three power levels and I have it in synthetic.

Next is the latest MCT Airwolf in synthetic.  One hole everytime at 35 yards.  Not ragged holes but one hole.  Best airgun out of the box ever made.  A bit heavy at 8lbs, but I get more than 130 shots at almost 40fpe.  Use it on low power and I get almost 200 shots at 30fpe in one 500cc fill.  On board computer tells you just about everything you need to know about what your gun is doing or what you want it to do.  The Mercedes of airguns with a Mercedes price tag.

In closing I think either one of these shooters will take care of your needs.  The FX Royale is another choice that might suit you.

[Rolls-Royce]

Ouch!  Those saguaros and chollas in the background remind me of the days when I was stationed in Tucson.  I grew up in Yuma, and there you have to get up into higher elevations or a bit farther north to see those types of cacti.  Makes walking around in the desert simple, though--most everything bites, stings, and is poisonous, or it has thorns, so you steer clear!