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Offline bodiej

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Re: what are your thoughts..?
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2009, 12:07:56 PM »
I firmly agree with the freedom to carry - be it openly or concealed. I think, however that in this day and age, where the general population sees a gun toting citizen as a possibly dangerous nut, it is asking for trouble.  Parents herding their children into stores, security guards following you around, cameras saving your pics and descriptions, your photos being hung on the security office walls, etc isn't going to help our causes with the lawmakers.  All it takes is to have someone in wealth and power be freaked out by seeing the gun toting nuts to raise hell and get laws passed - again, endangering our freedoms.  Remember we're all guilty until proven innocent!!  I run a flight school and dealing with the TSA's "interest in general aviation safety" has made my life and all those I work with absolute hell.  We're all terrorists until we can prove otherwise (and get expensed out of business)- but that's a different story altogether..

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Re: what are your thoughts..?
« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2009, 12:30:11 PM »
Working in the security end of things Bodiej I have to agree with you. Anyone using "open carry" WILL get attention, - and justifiability so. While it might be legal in some areas/states - it does send a message. You WANT to make a statement and need/get attention - there are far better ways to accomplish that. You WILL end up on "candid camera" - without any question, and the local police WILL be called. There are VERY strong legal/financial ramifications if "something" goes wrong.
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Now that's NOT to say I don't agree with private ownership or concealed carry, - I do, 110%. In fact I have a license to carry - and have had for decades. Have been an NRA member for longer than I can remember, and donate probably more than often enough.

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Re: what are your thoughts..?
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2009, 01:28:21 PM »
that video was a trip!  Everyone in that room was affected for the rest of their lives..  I especially liked the bit at the end with the dad carrying his daughter out.  He probably brought her there to show her that firearms are not evil or dangerous as long as proper care and responsibility is taken...  He waved that gun around with the magazine in and the slide closed..  Wasn't it a glock?  Isn't that a pretty heavy DAO trigger pull?  Was his finger actually inside the trigger guard in front of all those people?  Then he carries on in pain telling everyone how accidents can happen to anyone!!??  I don't see that as an accident.  The officer didn't show the audience the responsible task of clearing the firearm  to make sure it wasn't loaded..  Above that, which responsible officer was in charge of bringing the lot of guns to the classroom with the magazines in and the chambers closed..   I'm glad he shot himself in the leg instead of that bullet going into anyone in front of him while he was waving it around, or out the window or into the next classroom.  I hope he at least learned something from the ordeal (probably just how to fill out unemployment papers)..

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« Reply #18 on: September 05, 2009, 05:10:40 PM »
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=414_1249322308

i'm still wondering how the hell these things happen. forget to put the safety on?

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Re: what are your thoughts..?
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2009, 01:13:51 AM »
Lots of cops are carrying glocks now a days and glocks only have internal safeties. ie once a round is chambered, all you have to do is squeeze the trigger and it goes bang.

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RE: what are your thoughts..?
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2009, 03:25:30 AM »
Guns don't kill, Irresposible idiot people kill! The same goes for cars! I wonder how many of the anti-gun people that want to prevent us from carrying guns smoke cigarettes (and don't care if the person next to don't smoke& light up anyway), statistcally more people have died from illness caused by cigarettes then those that died in the last four major wars!   Guess what, they ain't banning cigarettes,,,hmmm I wonder why!
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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2009, 04:26:52 AM »
antigun people r more dangerous then people that carry them cause we know the do,s and donts .theydont they will shot u just for being suspicious. they carry guns also antigun people dont believe for a second that there house doesnt have a gun of some sort ...