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Offline davek58

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RE: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2009, 12:29:48 AM »
Can someone tell me what the difference between a "cheeper" (less than $150) and an expensive springer are?

Is it the quality of the workmanship?
Is it the internal components?
Is it the tolerances on the material and machining?

What makes an expensive gun more repeatable/acurate than a cheeper one (assuming the right pellet is used and the shooter is consistent)?

Thanks,

Dave

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RE: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2009, 01:18:26 AM »
I may be wrong, never having really owned a more expensive gun, but the more expensive ones likely do what the cheaper ones do after a tune. So, if you say a $150 gun, and you get a $150 tune, that's already a $300 gun. A tune hones the action and replaces parts that are inferior. But that only brings you part way. Then there are special features. Like cars...if you are just getting to and from work you don't want an indy racer. Lots of people like to 'work on' cars...customize, and personalize. More expensive guns might have features to reduce kick (opposing springs), additional trigger stages, barrel and sight differences and convenience features. Better rails and stops.

Getting what I get out of my cheaper-guns-with-a-tune, I don't see how I can justify a gun in the 600-1000 range, especially for backyard fun. Above that in the Indy Racer category I have no business. I am currently putting together a rifle for that price range, but it is custom, starting with a damaged stock TF89 and a tune. I'll be getting a custom stock, custom muzzle brake, and in the end will have a unique gun. My bet is I get great accuracy better feel, and pride of ownership (stock and brake designs will be my own). It will likely be the most I'll ever spend on a rifle. The trigger will be good, the power will be good, the accuracy will be good. it'll be fun to shoot.

I think the cheap guns got a bad rap when they were cheap and poorly manufactured. Now they have some quirks, but seems like those quirks can be worked out for significant savings and a lot of fun!

There's my ignorant take on it.
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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RE: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2009, 04:33:43 AM »
I don't know.
I'm not so sure if there is a real big difference. I see a lot of folks with just about as many issues on brand new RWS and other expensive guns as those with WallyWorld Crosman and Gamo stuff. It's all a crap shoot it would seem.

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RE: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2009, 06:24:15 AM »


Not really much difference in my opinion. Just more uniformly finished parts, extra workmanship, individually inspected, and somewhat higher quality materials are used. All of those things equates to a good quality shooter straight from the factory. However, in many instances that's not the case. I have known some people and have seem others buy expensive rifles and end up doing some work and or returning it because it was not performing as it could/should be.....Some higher end shooters will come with better stock accessories as well. Also if the rifle you're looking at has a wooden stock, then the chances are the wood stock boasts up the price significantly. For example, the RWS/Diana Model 52 is $380-400 right? Why so much when you get can a cheaper version from Xisico for $130. It's the wood stock. The stock replacement RWS 54 stock itself goes for $190-210, hmmmmm.....Also the accessory the rifle comes with, often raises the pricing as well. But most of the time, it's the "name" brand that has the price so high. So in terms of quality and shooting. You're better off getting a cheap name brand springer or a Chinese springer. That being said, many people choose to go with the higher end of rifles getting that "closure" of quality that the brand they're buying from will provide. So in conclusion, a $100 rifle with a $75-100 tune will be at or above the quality of a $200 shooter or even more. Also regarding the accuracy....many things affect it. The pellet, weather condition, cleanliness of the barrel's bore, and the shooter. In my experience it's seldomly the rifle that affects the accuracy.....well maybe a loose screw occasionally, but yeah you get the point. A cheap springer will shoot just as well as a high end rifle. Basically anybody here can tell you that =]



Happy shooting,



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RE: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2009, 06:52:57 AM »
Jarred, I think you are mostly agreeing with me, but what is that little bit about suggesting I have a loose screw?
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2009, 06:59:39 AM »
Yep I think I am =] I was stating that most of my rifles that I have shot, have had tremendous fluctuations in accuracy due to loose stock screws

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RE: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2009, 11:46:30 AM »
i just picked up my first rifle (well its on its way)the ruger black hawk which i know is a rws 34 panther clone ive heard its a good gun now with a tune and better scope what will the outcome be????
keep your eyes on the prize & dont let it crawl away.

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Re: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2009, 04:11:39 AM »
MM B26 .22 cal. with sporter stock.This is my 1st air gun. Alot cheaper than high power rifles. Maybe a bit more than $150 but worth every penny.
Arsenal:MM tuned Bam B26-2.22cal/Cometa Fusion Star.117cal/QB2079a.22cal
Scopes: Leapers 3-9X40AO/Hawke Airmax 4-12X40AO/Leapers 3-9X32AO

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Re: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2009, 05:43:17 AM »
IZH MP 514K. MP 512M. Crosman 2100. QB78. Daisy 22SG. Daisy 953. B3-1 (underlever or sidelever).Benji/Sheri 392/397/Blue Streak. Crosman 1377. Crosman 22xx.
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Re: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2009, 01:01:15 AM »
(me) back yard target shooter is my Big cat!= But it's a little over board :|.. so still looking.

the best part I think!
(note) looking here I not sure but =the 953 came up 6 or so times? The G1=came up 4 or so times
these are the two I'm thinking about next?? on Get my Quest a tune up ?

any & all in put is very much helpful :)
 Any good place to get the 953 or -G1 , stores?
Ron
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Re: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2009, 01:13:32 AM »
Amazon has a good price on the 953 @ about $72.

Daisy 953 Click Here

I'd get the additional clips. One thing I love about that gun is filling a bunch of clips and plinking away without interruption. Wonderful accuracy.

THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2009, 07:36:20 AM »
Crosman Phantom with a scope, then pick up and install a GRTIII trigger - $32.00 ... some decent zip, with excellent trigger action.
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http://www.pyramydair.com/p/crosman-phantom-1000x-air-rifle.shtml

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Re: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2009, 10:25:22 AM »
Hi,
Thanks for the info..
I did not count the 70= scope for the big cat, So thats puts it over the 150.00Bucks. Sorry bout that.







Quest 1000,Gamo big cat Bushnell 3x9 :)

have to lay low fer a peace!! with the Tf67 Deal went south , I lost 39 bucks on that one in shipping :0

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Re: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2009, 10:37:22 AM »
that looks like a good deal,
Do you have a scope on yours?
I'ed one with my bad eye sight!!
ron

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Re: TOP 10 BEST SHOOTERS/PLINKERS FOR UNDER $150.00.
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2009, 01:36:54 PM »
I like scopes. So, yeah, I have one on it. I like to shoot short range with it so I'd been using a bushnell that I adjusted the objective to go particularly short. Great thing...it is pneumatic and you can put any scope on it because the kick is so low. I had a sightron I was going to sell...bt now I am wondering it I might not be better off adjusting it for short range and mounting on the 953 !!
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO