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Offline North Pack

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Re: All over the place
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2009, 04:05:36 AM »
RoadKing, - I hope you've that problem squared away, - good luck. ... As posted, I had the muzzle brake "opened up" .040-050, - BINGO! problem solved. I just returned from the range, NO comparison, tight groups at both 25 & 50 yards. Anything that wasn't close, - probably had something to do with the guy hanging onto the rifle. ;)
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Re: All over the place
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2009, 10:30:41 AM »
I replaced the original Gamo scope, and gave up the light and laser(pretty cheesy anyway)  I went with a weaver base and a Leapers scope.  Still attempting to "dial" the gun in.  As far as "brakes" go, my Whisper has a fixed break (I think)   Is there anything that I could and or should do to it?  Also I took off the stock to replace the scope mount(s) and noticed that I am missing a small "C" clip on a part of the trigger assembly. Currently I am using safety wire to hold it in place.  Where can I get another "C" clip for the pin?  I sincerely appreciate all of the fine advice on this forum.  I was using way to much cheek pressure on the stock.  Once I adjusted my death grip, my grouping started looking better.  Still 4-6 out of 10 shots are random even after the scope change.  I am using Beeman Hi-speed 7.6 grn H&N Match and Polymag Predators.  If I pump anymore money into this gun my wife is going to use me for target practice!!!!! :o  :o
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Re: All over the place
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2009, 11:02:34 AM »
Two things, - that missing "C" clip on the trigger assembly is fairly common I'm told, - I had one missing too on a new Phantom. I would STRONGLY suggest one of your accuracy problems is with the factory trigger on the Whisper - waaay too much travel. You have to kinda guess when it will fire, and it's not always at the same point. Which makes things even worse. ... For $32.00 buy a GRT-III trigger from Bob, - you won't believe the difference in that gun. Your accuracy will improve 100% - and your wife WILL survive quite well,even if she doesn't think so - honest. ... Installing the GRT_III is a piece of cake, - you won't have a problem. - I doubt there's anything very practical you can do with the Whisper's barrel, - it should be ok as is, isn't that one of the reasons you bought it to begin with???   ... Good luck and let us know how things turn out, ... (BTW - if you really want to get a second "C" ring, - take the one you have off - and go to a hardware store, they should have a match)
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Re: All over the place
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2009, 11:44:04 AM »
You can get the little C from Home Depot.
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Re: All over the place
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2009, 02:42:57 PM »
Go for the GRTIII trigger. It transforms a budget air rifle into performing like a quality $500 gun. It is easy to install. Provide that there are no further undiagosed problems, using the correct springer shooting technique, you can achieve 5mm c-t-c groups at 30 metres. We find that using JSB Exact 8.44 4.53mm pellets gives optimum accuracy.
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Re: All over the place
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2009, 04:06:05 PM »
I have two Shadow 1000 NRA's.  The first one was returned to gamo and they replaced the scope.  Everything was tight, but it would pattern rather than group.  UPon return, the accuracy is what I expected.  Now, I'm going for the trigger and gas ram.
It could be the scope...                 Check it out.
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RE: All over the place
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2009, 01:00:35 AM »
Hi Jim, welcome to the forum. I know it has been said not to use anything heavier than a 9g pellet. But I have found all my .177's that are claimed to do 1000fps do much better with the Crosman Premier 10.5g.. Yes, it does slow it down, but the trade off is more fpe.. They work very well for me and I have not broken a spring to yet. Have a great day and good luck - Lee
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Re: All over the place
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2009, 02:23:51 AM »
What N_strike said. I changed scopes and got rid of this problem. I got Bushnell 3-9 for hunting and it has worked very good. Just bought another one for my other gun..$57.00 at Wally world.
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RE: All over the place
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2009, 05:40:01 AM »
Thanks for the info Lee!  I am really glad to have found this site.  So much knowledge to tap into!  I have read that it is not recommended to go higher than a 9g pellet in a .177.  Is it the seal that can't take the weight or spring, or both?
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Re: All over the place
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2009, 11:25:15 AM »
Hello Jim, after you've tried checking for loose stock screws and possibly replacing your scope you might try to remove your bi-pod and just shoot with what's refered to as the artillery hold. Bi-pods can be a hinderence to consistent grouping especially if it's mounted to the barrel via a barrel band. Anything touching the barrel  is usually a no-no in a springer.So much of these type issues are trial and error and more trial so keep shooting.It's not all that unusual for certain brands of air rifles to need a few warm up shots before they get in a groove. Good luck.
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RE: All over the place
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2009, 12:33:25 AM »
Hi Jim, although going over 9g is recommended by some, of all the different .177's I own and shoot frequently, I've never broken a spring by shooting 10.5's. I'm not saying to ignore the warning, I'm just saying I've never had a problem. Going from 9g to 10.5g is not that much of a stretch. I can't say as I've ever gone over 10.5g so I can't vouch for that, but the 10.5g has certainly improved my groups. Also, if you hang out here much, you'll be changing out your own springs anyways!! Have a great day - Lee
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