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Offline shawn67

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2009, 02:42:35 AM »
No I didn't shoot the B26 before the lube tune, I bought ir that way off Mike, but the quality of the Xisico parts far surpasses Tech Forces from what I see, lesson learned, the tech force stock cracked like a twig, now I'm a 255lb guy that used to bench over 480lbs before I broke my back, but I wasn't being rough, it just snapped in three pieces and I was standing there with kinnling in my hands, the wood was just weak, maybe I just got a bad one, stuff happens, but when I took the action out, the trigger looks as if it was put together by a 5th grader in shop class, the B26s trigger is 100 times better, and for a new gun to have a damaged breech seal- that's just weird, Tech Force has along way to go to catch up with Xisico in my opinion
Mike Melick tuned Bam B26,with  Leapers 4x16x40ao scope,Gene turbo tuned TF89 with Barska 3X12X40A0 scope and More powder burners than you can shake a stick at.                  Gun control is hitting what your aiming at

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2009, 07:17:02 AM »
Well good news after all the breech seal is taken care of, I found the exact same O ring at my local auto store as did I the E clip I needed, and I bought several of each for future use, now as soon as my stock gets here I can get it put together
Mike Melick tuned Bam B26,with  Leapers 4x16x40ao scope,Gene turbo tuned TF89 with Barska 3X12X40A0 scope and More powder burners than you can shake a stick at.                  Gun control is hitting what your aiming at

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2009, 10:17:08 AM »
Amazing what you can find...I was looking for parts for a completely different project having to do with Photography, and what I couldn't find at the photo store I located at a weight lifting shop -- thanks to searches on the internet. Didn't ever think there might be car parts in my GUN! I may have no use for that at the moment, but great idea.
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2009, 10:27:46 AM »
Seriously they had the O ring that is the exact same size as the O ring breech seal, I bought a dozen of them and a e clip assortment package, blue locktite and I got a message from UPS the new stock is supposed to be here tommorrow, I hope its as pretty as the last one but stronger, I'll bet mine had a weak spot in it, other wise it wouldn't have cracked, it was very disheartening because it was stained beautifully and the recoil pad was fitted nicely, I just hate seeing something so nice tear up, now the only other complaint is I don't really like the muzzle brake sight combo up front, since its gonna be scoped anyway I may have the barrel cut and new crown put in and have Gene make up a cool brake for it when he tunes it
Mike Melick tuned Bam B26,with  Leapers 4x16x40ao scope,Gene turbo tuned TF89 with Barska 3X12X40A0 scope and More powder burners than you can shake a stick at.                  Gun control is hitting what your aiming at

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2009, 11:18:59 AM »
I had Gene make a custom brake for me and I think he did an awesome job. I keep forgetting to get pictures of it up...Don't cut that barrel yet! he took my brake/sight off and replaced it. my guess is the new stock will be as good looking as the old and it just won't fail.
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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RE: dissapointed
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2009, 05:07:59 PM »
man that blows i get mines next week i hope i have better luck.
keep your eyes on the prize & dont let it crawl away.

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2009, 05:22:46 AM »
I'm expecting a TF89 in .22 but I ASKED for one with a bad stock because I could get a discount and I was going to replace the stock with a custom piece anyway...Not because the stock was bad normally, but because I am customizing the gun. Of the 5 TF guns that have passed through my hands (TF97, TF87, and 3 TF89s), all had solid, well-finished stocks. I don't think fretting over potentially getting a bad one is a good use of energy...
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2009, 05:44:46 AM »
I'm not fretting about it, they are shipping me a new one, it should be here today, I was just suprised and dissapointed that it broke in my hands on the first day, the new one will hope fully be better, I know a gut that makes beautiful custom stocks but I don't see putting a 400 dollars stack on a 134 dollar gun, I'd rather spend money getting it tuned and set up the way I want, I was going to put a custom stock on my B26 but I bought this gun instead and put some money aside for the tune, maybe later
Mike Melick tuned Bam B26,with  Leapers 4x16x40ao scope,Gene turbo tuned TF89 with Barska 3X12X40A0 scope and More powder burners than you can shake a stick at.                  Gun control is hitting what your aiming at

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2009, 06:22:24 AM »
Yeah, I'm putting a $400 English Walnut custom designed stock on a $119 gun...and then a $200 custom designed muzzle brake too! That together with tuning! So my $120 bargain turns into a $900 monster...well, more if you count the scope. I know what I want, and I know what I was to start with. I'm having a ball designing it, and in the end I know how good it will be -- at the same time a lot cheaper than some totally custom guns. I've known for a while I wanted something unique...Maybe that doesn't make much sense to some... i'm worth it ;-)
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2009, 06:58:27 AM »
Well I did qa penetration test using durabond( a metal with a plastic sandwitched in between the two layers of metal) we use it a lot to make floors and decks for JohnBoats, I put two pieces together and the TF89 went through both easily using a 14.3 grain hollow point pellet, the tuned B26 went through one and didn't even dent the other side, so the TF definately has more power
Mike Melick tuned Bam B26,with  Leapers 4x16x40ao scope,Gene turbo tuned TF89 with Barska 3X12X40A0 scope and More powder burners than you can shake a stick at.                  Gun control is hitting what your aiming at

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2009, 01:54:06 PM »
Got the new stock and its just as pretty as the other one was, blue locktited the screws and mounted the 3X12X44AO Barska air gun scope on accushot 1 piece high mounts, I was gonna use one of my 3X9X40 Leapers but I'm going to put it on another project, the dang fiber optic sight was showing up in the bottom of my sight picture so I dremeled the fiber optic part off and smoothed it out, primed and painted it, letting it set up and dry over night, tommorrow its gonna get zeroed in, my B26 is zeroed at 30 yards, I'm thinks of zeroinging the TF89 at 50 yards sice it shoots so much harder than the waB26, I was really suprised at how much harder the out of the box TF89 shoots than a tuned B26.
Mike Melick tuned Bam B26,with  Leapers 4x16x40ao scope,Gene turbo tuned TF89 with Barska 3X12X40A0 scope and More powder burners than you can shake a stick at.                  Gun control is hitting what your aiming at

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2009, 02:52:32 PM »
My TF .177 increased about 80fps after the tune

Glad your new stock seems to have met your expectations so far!
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2009, 02:41:16 AM »
To tell the truth I have no idea what it shoots on a chrony- I don't own one, and I'm probably not going to get one, but I can tell a HUGE difference in penetration and overall power from the TF89 and the B26, the TF89 is a monster compared to the sweet mild mannered B26,the first time after cocking the TF 89 a few dozen times and then switching to the B26 I thought I'd broke my B26 because its so light and smooth compared to the force it takes to cock the TF89, but that's exactly what I wanted, A strong shooting Beast because I already had the sweet shooting B26 that's deadly accurate and smooth as butter to cock, the TF89 has some spring buzz that I'm sure Gene will take care of when he tunes it, I lightened the trigger pull considerably on the TF89 but it took away the 2 stage trigger but its a lot lighter, Gene also does a trigger tune when he tunes the TF89 so I can hardy wait, I wish the GRTIII trigger would work on the TF89 but I'm sure after Gene works on it it will be great, the TF89 is VERY hold sensitive compared to the B26 too, but I found out where it wanted to be held and was suprised when it put 5 pellets in the same hole. So its just as accurate as my B26 maybe ev en more so it just takes a different technique, it needs my hand in a different spot than the B26 and it like a tighter hold against my shoulder and follow through is a must, when the B26 is stupid easy to shhot accurately the TF89 requires consentration and the same exact technique every time or it will scatter pellets everywhere but if you do your part it will reward you with same hole accuracy
Mike Melick tuned Bam B26,with  Leapers 4x16x40ao scope,Gene turbo tuned TF89 with Barska 3X12X40A0 scope and More powder burners than you can shake a stick at.                  Gun control is hitting what your aiming at

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2009, 05:14:09 AM »
OK so (?) is the B26 just as accurate as a 953?
Steve said the 97 is the gun for me? for target paper/cans!
the 97 has a Lether seal? is that better then a rubber seal?
anyway what I'm asking is with the 953 you can see the prllet hit the paper, & on a ft97 steve said it's more accurate, & cheeper $ 71.00+shipping. :o
Ron

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Re: dissapointed
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2009, 05:33:38 AM »
I don't think the TF97 is more accurate than the 953, and I own and shoot both. At least not out of the box. The TF97 has some kick and twang, and the 953 barely has any between the low power and pneumatic action. That is not to say I don't think the TF97 isn't accurate. However, right now if I was going to be buying an underlever, I'd get a TF87...yes, it is more then twice the cost, it weighs about 4 pounds more...but if you don't want to see the pellet hit the target, it has the punch/speed and the one I shot was smooth out of the box and had great accuracy. Or go for the 99 premiere @ $119 if price is an issue. The 97 is OK, but my bet is you'll have wished you got the 87 or 99 instead.
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO