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Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« on: November 22, 2009, 01:27:46 PM »
Here she is. 4 sections: 1. Arrival/Looks,2. Power, 3. Accuracy, 4. Misc. I shot her up in northern Arizona, and squirrel hunted with her.
Pictures are up!

Pellets: CP, JSB Jumbo's, TF Wadcutters.
Scope: Leapers 3-9x40
Rings: Leapers Accushot High

1.

I ordered the gun on the 11th (Vet's Day) and Compasseco shipped on the 13th. She arrived on the 20th. Came double boxed, with only three foam blocks holding it.  But, she had only a few extremely tiny marks on her. Out of the box, she looked GREAT! Compasseco was very nice by giving me some freebies (see misc section). If there is any doubt at all the the TF89 is the AR1000, they can be shattered; the users manual was for the AR1000 magnum. The 89 is a very nice dark wood of some sort, with pressed checkering on the forearm and handgrip that is not very deep. I am O.K. with that though.SAG has replaced the old iron sights with fiber optic ones, which I REALLY like. They are very nice; just put the red in between the green and fire! The scope stop is junk, (see accuracy) and should either be made better or not included at all.  The cocking has some grinding, but after shooting it has gone down a bit. A tune will fix that hopefully. For me, the cocking was a breeze. It is not "extremely light" or whatever Compasseco advertises, but it is not hard by any means.

THE BARREL LOCKS VERY LOOSELY. The barrel has dropped after the shot on me to many times. When setting the gun down on my sand bags, is must do it very gently or the barrel will fall. To me, this is a safety hazard.

The trigger was nice for a plastic one. The first stage was "good enough", but the second stage had to much creep. Muzzle break was fine. Once I get a good scope I might replace it with a better one. As you can see from my pics, she is a good looking gun. She looks like a real killer with a scope!

2.

This gun has some power. It has some heavy recoil (for a air gun; comparable to a .22 firearm) and it tore up my scope (see accuracy) It twists to the right (the spring) after firing quite a bit, but that does not effect shooting.  I shot a small Grey squirrel with it and it knocked him right out of his tree. Clean kill. It is quieter than a .22 firearm (no powder or supersonic boom), but it might be enough to agitate the neighbors. For power testing, I grabbed a Elk femur (I shot at my cabin, which is in the middle of the national forest where there are elk everywhere. Great place to be!) I found on the ground not far from where I was shooting, and set it up at 10yrds. If you have never seen Elk bone, it is comparable to cow; that is THICK! I drew a bulls-eye and fired away with a mix of the free pellets Compasseco gave me and some CP's. This gun shot THROUGH both sides of the bone..... WOW! TONS of power!

3.

And here is where my troubles started.......
I put on the brand new Leapers scope with the Accushot rings. If you look at the pics, you can see how good it looked! I was so excited to go shoot! I had not shot her with open sights yet, but went straight to the scope. All my shooting was off a table, with sand bag. Very steady the entire time.
It was not a good day to shoot. 10-20mph winds in 20-30* temps was not fun. But, I tried. I set up at 10yrds to sight it in, about 50yrds away from the cabin. You can see from the pics of my 1st group, I moved my way up towards the bulls-eye before it got VERY cold and windy, and I was forced to go inside. While still to windy to shoot, I set up the power test and some cans to shoot off my front porch. I probably show 50-100 pellets for fun then, not for accuracy. Midway through, I noticed that my rings were sliding back. I adjusted them, and tightened them down more. A little while later, (25-40 shots), they had slid AGAIN! I was not happy.......
Just to try it, I put the scope stop on.......
10 shots later, something flew by my head...... you can guess what......
So, I tightened the rings to their max......
It stayed to windy to shoot any more that day....
But, when I awoke, it was all calm! So I went out, set up for 30 yrds, and began to "Finish" sighting in the gun. My groups were shot gun groups! How could this be? I knew this gun could be accurate! I would adjust left, and she would shoot high! I had to put a huge 100yrd target behind the trap to see where the way off shots went. The scope was still moving, but very little. I wondered if the scope could be bad. If the recoil could have of moved the scope, it may have damaged the internals also. I shot using the open sights.... They shot quite a bit low. At 30yrds, the red fiber optic sight covers up the entire black circle. Well, needless to say, after adjustment, she shot great with open sights. VERY accurate gun. It was the scope that was bad. I went out and shot the small Grey squirrel after that (see misc.) Now I just need a scope that can match these open sights....

4.

Still need to find that perfect pellet, need to get a better scope. Getting her Gene tuned in the near future.

Small Grey Squirrel Hunt: http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23067&posts=1#M183338

Free Stuff:

Pellet Trap
Wadcutters
Hat
Targets

Bad Stuff:

Scope
Rings
Scope Stop
Pellet Trap

Good Stuff:

Targets (thin cardboard for good holes)
The TF89!
Kyler
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My one and only air gun: TF89 .22!
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23042&posts=11#M183344

Hunts:
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23067&mid=183338#M183338

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Re: Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2009, 01:42:01 PM »
While I am a little surprised the leapers fell apart on you (they are supposed to be springer rated) I know how the recoil can be. You will have a lot less recoil after a tune. That means not only better accuracy, but less worry about your scopes.

Glad you found out it was the scope and didn't blame the gun. I think the latter can happen a lot -- especially if it should be a scope you trust.

Nice review! No chrony?
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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RE: Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2009, 02:00:32 PM »


Sounds like you're enjoying her, if not the scope. If you have the receipt they should replace it though. Those 89's look great don't they?



And yeah, isn't a clamp on scope stop the most worthless thing ever?

Yea, though I walk through the garden in the shadows of pests,
I will fear no squirrel: For thou art with me;
thy scope and thy trigger, they comfort me.

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o( ()()  ~In memory of Alu~

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Re: Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2009, 02:07:34 PM »
yeah, I took the silly scope stop off all three of my AR1000s. Wish they came with a rail like the RWS -- it is probably the best part of that gun!
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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RE: Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2009, 02:53:44 PM »
Pictures are up (may not be in order though.)
Kyler
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My one and only air gun: TF89 .22!
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23042&posts=11#M183344

Hunts:
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23067&mid=183338#M183338

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RE: Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2009, 03:19:38 PM »


Thanks for the Pics!!

How thick is that trap? Is it actually going to hold up against that 89?
Yea, though I walk through the garden in the shadows of pests,
I will fear no squirrel: For thou art with me;
thy scope and thy trigger, they comfort me.

()()                          
(O.o)      
o( ()()  ~In memory of Alu~

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RE: Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2009, 03:29:08 PM »
It should be thick enough. It looks nice and sturdy. It has taken around 300 pellets so far.
Kyler
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My one and only air gun: TF89 .22!
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23042&posts=11#M183344

Hunts:
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23067&mid=183338#M183338

Everyone is a genius at least once a year. The real geniuses simply have their bright ideas closer together.
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Re: Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2009, 03:30:41 PM »
LOL! That is a legitimate concern! I was shooting traps and they ended up turning into car wrecks from all the denting. That's when I switched and startd shooting balsa traps I made myself. They do a great job of capturing and holding the lead.
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2009, 03:52:52 PM »
How do you make your traps??? Is there a guide somewhere???

Yes, a good pellet trap is important. I like it because it was free! I had no idea they would send me one, and 100 targets to go with it!
Kyler
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My one and only air gun: TF89 .22!
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23042&posts=11#M183344

Hunts:
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23067&mid=183338#M183338

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RE: Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2009, 10:54:18 PM »
I had exactly the same scope and scopestop problems with my AR-1000. I'd suggest a DIY scopestop, a piece of thick plate screwed onto the top of the scope rail/reservoir. Do it properly and it won't fly away and keeps the scope from sliding. Some other AR-1000 versions use such a scope stop and no-one has complained about those. One other thing, the muzzle "brake" was loose on mine which made even open sights worthless - check yours. Trigger adjustment is also worth consideration, mine was not so nice on factory settings.
If some is good and more is better - then too much is just right.
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RE: Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2009, 04:18:28 AM »
My muzzle break is fine. My trigger could use some work. Thanks for the heads up!
Kyler
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http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23042&posts=11#M183344

Hunts:
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23067&mid=183338#M183338

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RE: Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2009, 04:55:42 AM »
It is actually a very nice trigger once you adjust it. Two screws behind the trigger blade.
If some is good and more is better - then too much is just right.
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Re: Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2009, 04:58:42 AM »
I had Gene tune my gun and he worked on the trigger -- he refused to replace it cause he said i'd like this one adjusted. It was night and day when I got it back -- wonderful trigger.
THE GUNS:
     â€¢ Cometa Fusion Star (Gene tuned) 12/10/09
     â€¢ Cometa Fenix RWS 94 2/8/10
     â€¢ RWS Diana 48 .177 1/8/10 [TRADE for RWS 350]
     â€¢ Walther Force 1000 .177 11/11/09
     â€¢ TF89 .22 10/26/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ TF89 .177 (Gene tuned) 9/6/09
     â€¢ Remington Vantage 1200 .177 8/22/09 (Gene tuned 1/6/10)
     â€¢ Daisy 953 (pneumatic) 8/02/08
     â€¢ Gamo Big Cat 2/5/10 (broken...free...maybe gas piston?!)

THE SCOPES:  
     â€¢ Sightron SII 4-16x42 AO  
     â€¢ Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight EFR AO
     â€¢ Bushnell Trophy 6-18x42 AO  
     â€¢ Swift 686 High Recoil 6.5-20x44 AO  
     â€¢ Hawke Air Max 4-12x40 AO  
     â€¢ Bushnell Banner 6-18x50 AO

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Re: Tech Force 89 .22 Review
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2009, 05:31:51 AM »
I do believe it will be a great trigger when he is done with it!
Kyler
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My one and only air gun: TF89 .22!
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23042&posts=11#M183344

Hunts:
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23067&mid=183338#M183338

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UPDATE
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2009, 08:01:22 AM »
The pellet trap is now under the "bad stuff" section in misc. It couldn't take the pain, so it tapped out! LOL
Kyler
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My one and only air gun: TF89 .22!
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23042&posts=11#M183344

Hunts:
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23067&mid=183338#M183338

Everyone is a genius at least once a year. The real geniuses simply have their bright ideas closer together.
—Georg Christoph Lichtenberg