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Offline Mryan21

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Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« on: February 15, 2010, 12:00:58 PM »
Would the kodiak pellets in my disco work well for hunting. I've never used kodiaks, but from what i have seen they seem to be very accurate and hard hitting. I've read my gun, if like the others, will launch one in the high 600's maybe low 700's. I was wondering what pellets u guys use for hunting in your disco. I love using heavyweight pellets, i use 18.1 grains JSBs in my 392. These i figure are the heaviest pellets that still are somewhat practical. Since the disco is much more powerful, do you think the kodiaks, or even the 25 cal jsb monsters would be practical in the disco. I love to hear the smack, and from what i've expeirence, heavy pellets just seem to hit harder. I would really like to try the eujin 28.4 grain pellets as well. Has anyone tryed pellets these heavy in their discos? I bet that sure would smack the snot out of a squirrel.
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RE: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 12:08:57 PM »
I have found .22 caliber Kodiaks to be outstanding hunting pellets.  I use them in my Condor and in my Marauder  for hunting.  They have always given me outstanding accuracy and as you said they hit like a ton of bricks  :)

I'd give em a try in your disco and see how they fly.  If you can launch them in the 600's -700 fps it should put a hurtin on any small game you hit with it....

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Re: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 12:32:00 PM »
Heck i'll give all three a try, pyramyd still has the 4 for 3 deal i think. I also have to give those predators you guys are always talking about a try. I just wonder if they do enough damage to make them worth 15$ for 200. What do you think, worth the money if they shoot straight, or will other pellets do just as well. Am i missing something not trying them. From the holes and damage i've seen, doesn't seem they do all that much more damage than your standard pellet. And i mean 8$ more a tin damage? I just love the fact there are so many options. Hmm, i forgot, also never tryed crowmags. These any good if they shoot straight of course? I would like a pellet that actually whacks the heck out of small game. Ever since the disco, i've been getting alot more icepick type wounds. In and out, and this always causes the squirrels to run off. They only go 10 yards or so, but they may be 10 feet from there den or nest. I alway go for headshots if possible. But honestly, sometimes a chest shot is alot more practical, especially offhand. I feel with a gun shooting around 20 fpe or so i shouldn't have to do headshots only anymore like i had to previously. I'm just trying to increase my success rate, just like the rest of you guys. I know a good hit drops them, but sometimes it doesn't instantly. I've shot alot of squirrels with 22. lr solids, and have lost them with solid chest shots as well. I know very rarely its going to happen. I just want to reduce the likelyhood that it will with pellets that do more damage. Like i said, i'm a headshots guy anyway. If it's there, thats where i'm aiming. But if it's not, i would still like to be able to shoot with confidence. Just like deer hunting though, seems if you get the shoulder of a squirrel, he's done .
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Re: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 12:40:44 PM »
I have a mac1 tuned disco for 3 years i keep it with my friend so he can protect his chicken coop it shoots 14.3 grain cphp's sweet hard pellet dose damage but by far the best was the predators they crushed everything well worth the money

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Re: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 11:16:10 PM »
I'm a big believer in HP's, the softer the better. I saw the difference in results with pigeons last summer.

Looking at terminal ballistic tests on the 'net, it sure looks like the Crow Mag's are going to do as well or better than most pellets from an expansion standpoint, ESPECIALLY if you hit some bone. In fact, I'd say that with any hot pellet that's what you want to do (even if that bone is skull ;) ).

I tried a good number of pellets and I've found that the Crow Mags (Beeman or H&N) are reliable and well made. Very accurate and pretty heavy.

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Re: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 11:40:58 PM »
I like shooting the .22 Kodiaks in my Theoben Gas-Ram RX-2. They really pack a wallup on anything,....be it tin cans or small game. Absolutley devestating on sparrows. Decapitates them on contact!!!!!! The Cro-mags are no different. A top five of my favorite hunting pellets. I like them for their blunt impact and somewhat  limited penetration. BTW, with a solid shot, the cro-mags will expand more than you think!!! Whether they'll work in your Disco, I don't know,......but I don't see where they would hurt anything. tjk
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Re: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2010, 04:41:53 AM »
I have always wanted to try crow-mags. Only reason i haven't is because all the complaints i read about accuracy. I'll give them a try and see how they shoot. They aren't anymore expensive than the jsbs i usually shoot. I always wonder why they don't make a pellets that are explosive for higher power airguns. You know, something comparable to varmint express bullets in a powder burner..
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Re: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2010, 01:18:45 AM »
the best pellet for any purpose in the discovery is the kodiak. the only bad part (if at all) is the deep penetration. great wind bucking power and great accuracy

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Re: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2010, 01:25:44 AM »
my favorite pellet isnt a pellet but a 20gr rimfire slug from an aguila colibri bullet
they hit harder than any pellet i tried  including kodiaks and accurate

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Re: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2010, 02:15:58 AM »
waste of good rimfire slugs. but if it works ...

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Re: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2010, 03:11:26 AM »
they got wet started to corrode so i tried them in my airgun they actually perform better there than in the rimfire

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Re: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2010, 04:54:24 AM »
well the weight u mentioned would be making them supersonic in the rimfire LR loads that is assuming u were using them as LR and not as shorts. try .22 LR subsonics to get the fur flying in the rimfire.they are accurate as hell.

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Re: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2010, 06:51:19 AM »
I don't have a discovery, but this may be of interest to you.  I have shot the crows, preds, cphps and eujins both 28 round nose and 31 gr pointed from my falcon hunter.  I have also done some very basic 30 yrds comparisons to see impact differences.  I wasn't shooting at a fantastic target (a piece of barn board), but as ridiculous as it may sound I think it is comparable to shooting small game... sort of tougher exterior and softer interior.  Anyway's from this distance they all penetrated at least 3/4" without going all the way through, the wound tracks and impact noise were where the differences became more obvious to me.   Cphp: make a small hole, narrow channel, pellet nearly flattens and not much noise.  Crows: larger round hole and a channel that does get some what wider as it goes, pellet does not expand all that much, and its shape is not overly distorted, these pellets really need to  strike something really hard while moving fast in order to expand however, shooting from the close distances which would be needed to keep the fps up you are more likely to have through and through shots as apposed to good expansion.  So I am not really sure what the proper place to use them is?  Predators: thin hole, channel gets much wider the deeper it goes and the pellet doesn't expand uniformly, it sort of flattens and becomes thinner and taller, which explains the narrow yet wide wound channel, satisfying thud on impact.  Eujins:  large hole, large channel, loud thud, pellets do not change shape aside from a little flattening at the tip, did penetrate the deepest.  I found my gun shots the pointed 31's much more accurately then the rounded 28's especially on windy days.  Obviously the lighter the pellet the more the wind can impact it over distance.  I didn't do the impact comparison with kodiaks 21gr at the same time,  but i have shot enough of them to know they make a loud thud, a large hole and deep penetration.  I read a while back that people use thin thin blades to slice an "x" into crows and that really makes them expand on impact, probably reduces over penetration as well, however, they are not the most accurate pellets for head shots on the best of days especially over 25-30 yrds so take your chances.  That said I don't see why you couldn't make a thin slice into the heads of kodiaks which i find to be more accurate then crows and get a little expansion out of them? I just might try that :>  Take it for what it's worth, hope it helps.    Cheers

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Re: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2010, 12:41:51 PM »
with a caliber like the .177 and even the .22 for that matter what i need would be penetration esp for fur. that said i really gave up on all others after i got the kodiaks zeroed. looks like i need to stock up.

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Re: Kodiaks in the discovery for hunting..
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2010, 04:15:14 PM »
Do yourself a favor, spend the xtra 8$ for the preds.I shoot`em in a AZ tuned BSA Super 10,.22 around 950 fps.And have found body shots out to around 50 or so yards and barring not hittin the shoulder bone I`d say 7 out of 10 they shoot thru & thru with a gnarly wound channel,o`course if ya hit shoulder they just lay over,Kodiaks are fine pellets but I`ve found after about 40 yards in my guns they start doin their own thing accuracy wise........Just my .02.By the way hiya Jeff and Ed,been a rough road but I`m back.......... 8)
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