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Offline rocker1

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xl1500 chrony numbers
« on: May 06, 2010, 08:01:54 AM »
gamo pointed 7.56 g        [ 1097  1097  1101  1102  1096  1096  1095  1097   1099  1100 ]  .      rws hollow point 6.9g [1198  1224  1228  1225  1220  1228  1230  1232  1228  1231  ]  rws meisterkugeln [1120  1124  1128  1122  1122  1120  1126  1124  1121  1124] crossman premier pointed  7.9  [1142  1142  1145  1148  1144  1146  1142  1151  1146  1151  ]  crossman destroyers[1146  1150  1151  1150  1156  1159  1153  1158  1156  1159]  gamo rockets   1040 1032  1032 1037  1038  1037  1041  1035  1034  1038 ]     i tryed to line this up on the page  so it would be easier to read  but  did not have much luck,  i quess i will figure it out some day. any way hope it helps some of these guys out here that know way more than i do about this rifle  give you a idea of what it is.  this was all the pellets i have nothing heavy. thanks david
XL1500177  XL1100 22 CROSSMAN PHANTOM 177 REMINGTON SUMMIT22 CROSSMAN STORM 177 BENJAMINE 392P 22 RWS MODEL 45 177 CROSSMAN 1377 CROSSMAN TITAN 22 AND A B-3 CHING CHANGE

Offline patton123

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RE: xl1500 chrony numbers
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2010, 10:03:55 AM »
I don't know what the xl 1500 is, but try shooting heavier pellets.

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RE: xl1500 chrony numbers
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2010, 10:07:06 AM »
sorry about that  it is a benjamine trail xl1500 177
XL1500177  XL1100 22 CROSSMAN PHANTOM 177 REMINGTON SUMMIT22 CROSSMAN STORM 177 BENJAMINE 392P 22 RWS MODEL 45 177 CROSSMAN 1377 CROSSMAN TITAN 22 AND A B-3 CHING CHANGE

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RE: xl1500 chrony numbers
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2010, 11:08:09 AM »
Yea, I'd try H&N Baracuda 10.65 grain or CP Heavy 10.5 grain pellets. That's a big powerplant in that airgun for such lightweight pellets.

Maybe even try Eun Jin 16.1 grain pellets too.

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Re: xl1500 chrony numbers
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2010, 01:53:49 PM »
It's supposed to shoot 1500 fps, but it looks like it's coming up way short, even with the 6.9 grain pellets.  Why do the airgun manufacturers do that?  They jack up the numbers to entice people to buy their guns, but when the people get their guns through the chronograph, it's shooting nowhere near the speed it at which is was rated.  The bow manufacturers do the same thing and it drives me up the wall.

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RE: xl1500 chrony numbers
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2010, 03:20:59 PM »


Those are some pretty decent numbers you got going there. And those muzzle energies look like they're for a .22, not a .177 yowza! Definitely need to grab some heavy pellets. I'm guessing this was a pretty loud chrony session :o



If you want to make stuff look all nice and purty you can us the table tool in the rich text editor. But honestly, most of the time I don't think it's worth all the work it takes to make it look nice:

PelletGamo Pointed
RWS HP
RWS Meisterkugeln
CP Pointed
Crosman Destroyer
Gamo Rocket
weight 7.56
6.9
8.2 7.9
7.9 9.6
1
1097 1198
 1120
1142
1146
1040
2 1097 1224 1124 1142 1150 1032
3 1101 1228 1128 1145 1151 1032
4 1102 1225 1122 1148 1150 1037
5
1096
1220
1122
1144
1156
1038
6 1096 1228 1120 1146 1159 1037
7 1095 1230 1126 1242 1153 1041
8 1097 1232 1124 1151 1158 1035
9 1099 1228 1121 1146 1156 1034
10 1100 1231 1124 1151 1159 1038
lo 1095 1198
1120
1142 1146 1032
hi 1102 1232 1128 1151 1159 1041
mean 1098 1224 1123 1146 1154 1036
spread 7 34 8 9 13 9
M.E. 20.2 23.0 23.0 23.0 23.4

22.9

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I will fear no squirrel: For thou art with me;
thy scope and thy trigger, they comfort me.

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Re: xl1500 chrony numbers
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2010, 10:34:24 PM »
No were near 1500. Ya have to shoot cotton balls. lol

Ray

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Re: xl1500 chrony numbers
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2010, 01:43:55 AM »
Nah, can't shoot cotton balls either; it'll be like trying to throw a potato chip.

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Re: xl1500 chrony numbers
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2010, 03:39:13 AM »
i don't quess there are any  springers or gas rams that shoot  the advertised  velocitys. i know my benjamine trail xl 1100 dosent' shoot 1100 fps either.  we all buy these rifles because of advertisesd fps then we use heavy pellets to slow them down but it would still be nice to get what they advertise .
XL1500177  XL1100 22 CROSSMAN PHANTOM 177 REMINGTON SUMMIT22 CROSSMAN STORM 177 BENJAMINE 392P 22 RWS MODEL 45 177 CROSSMAN 1377 CROSSMAN TITAN 22 AND A B-3 CHING CHANGE

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RE: xl1500 chrony numbers gamo pba
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2010, 09:29:49 AM »
well i went  to the local wally world today and bought a pack of gamo pba raptor pellets , thought i would shoot them through the chrony to see what they would do   1492  1510   1497  thats all i am going to shoot through my rifle !!!!  almost like dry firing it  as far as i am concerned  these pellets are a piece of crap will not be anymore through my rifle .  so i quess i have 47 left . they are to light to be used as fishing weights   the box my rifle came with says 1500 fps with alloy pellets well i quess they are right but it seems kinda like cheating. some one out there tell me what good they are for. thanks david
XL1500177  XL1100 22 CROSSMAN PHANTOM 177 REMINGTON SUMMIT22 CROSSMAN STORM 177 BENJAMINE 392P 22 RWS MODEL 45 177 CROSSMAN 1377 CROSSMAN TITAN 22 AND A B-3 CHING CHANGE

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RE: xl1500 chrony numbers gamo pba
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2010, 09:49:27 AM »
hmmm... maybe you could give 47 people a "Golden Pellet Award"
Yea, though I walk through the garden in the shadows of pests,
I will fear no squirrel: For thou art with me;
thy scope and thy trigger, they comfort me.

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o( ()()  ~In memory of Alu~

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RE: xl1500 chrony numbers
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2010, 03:41:54 PM »
Impressive numbers, The xl1500 is now on my short list. Have you had a chance to check the accuracy? What pellets do you intend to try next? It's hard to go wrong with some JSB or RWS pellets. All my air guns like said pellets. I'd like to have another break barrel gun with big power. I've had a few Crosman break barrels, which I gave away to family members. That was before I knew about tune jobs and  pellet selection. They did not break down even with very heavy use, but they were not accurate enough for me. However, now I would send them off to Gene for tuning.

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Re: xl1500 chrony numbers
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2010, 06:48:59 PM »
Rocker, the gas ram can handle shooting alloy pellets.  It's the coil spring that is susceptible to damage with too light and too heavy a pellet.  The Trail XL's gas ram doesn't require a spring compressor to remove, so that tells me there's not a whole lot of preload on the gas ram.  When the trigger is pulled and the piston has moved to the end of the shot cycle, it's not like the gas ram will want to extend that much further into the compression chamber causing damage like a spring with a lot of preload would.  I'd hazard to say that it's probably safe to shoot the alloy pellets from the XL, but don't expect any semblance of accuracy from the PBAs.

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Re: xl1500 chrony numbers
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2010, 11:51:55 PM »
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rocker1 - 5/7/2010  11:39 AM

i don't quess there are any  springers or gas rams that shoot  the advertised  velocitys. i know my benjamine trail xl 1100 dosent' shoot 1100 fps either.  we all buy these rifles because of advertisesd fps then we use heavy pellets to slow them down but it would still be nice to get what they advertise .


To give credit where credit may be due - I think Crosman comes close - certainly closer to advertised speed than Gamo !!!
 Crosman says the Trail XL 1100 will do 1100fps with alloy pellets.

My XL did 1071fps with a Craptor. If that speed is then compensated for alititude, that's just about 1100fps. But accuracy is a guessing game. And, there's more noise because the Craptors are  just about at the speed of sound, so the pellet adds it's "whip-crack" to the sound.

Paul.
Benji Trail NPXL 1100, Gamo .22 Whisper, Crosman 760 Pumpmaster, Crosman 66 Powermaster, Crosman .22 revolver, Daisy model 102, Daisy early Model 25.