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Offline daved

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Finally got a lathe!
« on: May 15, 2010, 03:50:43 PM »
Not the one I was planning on, but I'm more than happy with what I got :-)!  I'd finally convinced the wife that I NEEDED a lathe, and had decided on the Grizzly 10x22.  Of course, by the time I got around to ordering, it was on back order until June.  Can you say slow boat from China?  Didn't want to wait that long, so went shopping on the "local" Craig's List, and this is what I came up with:



It's a 10-12 year old Grizzly 12x24 belt drive.  It's obviously seen some use, but despite it's looks, it's in very nice shape, and everything works just fine.  And check out these specs!  1 1/2 HP, 240 volt motor, 1 9/16" spindle bore (!), and POWER cross feed!  Nice range of spindle speeds, a quick change gear box, separate feed rod and threading lead screw, AND I got the stand and a bunch of tooling besides.   This is a lot more machine than I was going to get, and I got it for about the same price.  If you think I'm a happy camper, you'd be right ;-)!   Now I just need something to do with it.  Any one got any ideas :-)?  Later.

Dave

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Re: Finally got a lathe!
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2010, 05:41:59 PM »
Way to go Dave.. Lathes do not alway look that great when used. But they hold up pretty good over the years.  Best of luck and I can't wait to see what you are gonna make now..:) Sky is the limit..
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Re: Finally got a lathe!
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2010, 05:48:56 PM »
nice unit....not alot wrong with a older lathe...
It dose look alot like a older Hafco metal master 320x600
which are dam good lathes...

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Re: Finally got a lathe!
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2010, 11:08:16 AM »
nice toy i'm sure you will come up with a thousand things to do with it real quick, i found mine on craigslist as well that place can be a goldmine sometimes. i have only had mine for two months and never owned or operated one prior too and now i don't know how i got along without it.

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Re: Finally got a lathe!
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2010, 12:52:16 AM »
Nice find, it looks great:) I have a lathe on my list of toys I need, I am still in the stage of looking.

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Re: Finally got a lathe!
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2010, 02:17:04 AM »
One thing to keep in mind.  I don't know anything yet, but I've already figured out that bigger is better.  Bigger means heavier, which means less flex and vibration.  It also usually means a bigger spindle bore, so even though I can "only " do 24" between centers, if what I'm working on is 1 1/2" or less, I can run it through the head stock.  I've seen some recommendations for the older Atlas/Craftsmen 10" lathes, but I wouldn't go there.  They were just a smaller lathe with a riser block under the headstock.  They also used a lot of Zamac castings, basically pot metal.  For all my issues with made in China, I have to say the Grizzly tools seem to be one hell of a bang for the buck, both old and new.  This looks like it's going to be a great adventure :-)!  Later.

Dave

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Re: Finally got a lathe!
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2010, 03:00:18 PM »
Nice toy to add to the addition.  always good to have one around.
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Re: Finally got a lathe!
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2010, 10:34:55 PM »
The Atlas 10/12 inch lathes are not a smaller lathe with a riser block under the headstock. They are their own models of lathe in the Atlas line. The 6 inch Atlas was a small hobby lathe comparable to the Chinese 7x12 mini lathes. Zamac alloys are damned good alloys. They are strong and have excellent bearing qualities. Zamac alloys have a tensile strength of 41,000 to 61,000 psi, depending on the particular alloy, and a shear strength of 31,000 to 47,000 PSI.  The zamac parts of a 10'12 inch Atlas were all non-structural parts such as change gears and covers. All the important parts were steel and cast iron. For airgun and most gun work, an Atlas 10 or 12 inch lathe is plenty. I have an old QC54 and am looking at a 12x24. I also have a 7B shaper. So far, they are both very good units. If you're going to chamber rifle barrels for a living, you'll want a heavy lathe, but air gun work is not the same as reaming rifle chambers.
You did well with your lathe purchase.  If I had the room, I'd like to have an old British Harrison AA330, as it's a 13" swing by 25" between centers toolroom lathe that weighs 1400 pounds.
Zinc die casting alloys have gotten an undeserved bad rap because of of "pot metal" which is NOT Zamac. It is a cheap lead/zinc alloy that used to be used in toys and other older die casting.
Atlas used one of the best Zamac alloys available, though I don't remember exactly which one. There are something like 7 different ones.
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Re: Finally got a lathe!
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 06:25:20 AM »
Thanks for the education, Jeremy.  And thanks for the perfect example of basing opinions on second or even third hand knowledge, rather than personal experience :-).  Is it possible that what I said applied JUST to the Craftsman versions of the Atlas lathes, but not the Atlas branded similar versions?  When things get built to a price point, cheapness sometimes happens, as I'm sure we've all learned somewhere along the way.

Regardless, I'm still very happy with my used Grizzly, and continue to expand my horizons.  Did a fairly tricky internal threading project last night, out of sheer luck, it worked.  Now I need to do some threading research.  I need to figure out the proper technique for mating threads.  Later.

Dave