Help me choose please----

[itsnotom]

if i wanted a chinese gun i would get a bam,qb,ect. when im gonna shell out extra money for something thats suppose to be made in germany,i  expect 100% german. not a half breed

[geewhiz380]

agree its a rumor only and not true about them havin chinese barrels at all .bam are very decent for i own a few from mike melick which i find them to be very accurate and powerful enough and if any problem occures mike really extends himself to better serve his clients thats why i keep buying them plus its affordable .just like any other brand u will always have problems with them even if u paid 1000.00 or 100.00 there is always a few in the bunch that come out bad ....jorge

[Gene_SC]

My RWS 34 pro compact is less than two years old. It will be the last 34 I buy. It is more accurate than I can be... So if it has a Chinese barrel, so be it. My other 34 is a 1987 vintage and is also very accurate...

[itsnotom]

im not knocking the chinese guns. it all boils down to if im buyiing an rws, i expect it to be all rws. i can get a b25 for half the price and its a very good gun

[bcshooter]

Hi Ray, My choice would be the Diana 34 Panther Pro,everyone should own a 34 during their life, LOL. A great all around shooter, excellent firing cycle,accurate, almost really smooth shooter right out of the box, 95% of the time. The other 5% is luck of the draw. Hope you get one of the 95% picks. ......Shoot Safe and Enjoy........Bill

[Sam]

I had the chance to look at some Trail series at the Sportsman Wharehouse and every one of them was Chinese made.  At any time I will pick the RWS 34 over any Benjamin Trail.

[Max]

I haven't shot the 34, but my brother owns the Trail XL in .22, and it's the most powerful springer I've ever shot.  After a quick lube & tune, it fire so smoothly that I want one.  The power scares me a bit though!  I have owned a Beeman R1 and R7, each in .177, and so far I would choose the chinese made Trail XL (after a tune) over either for an all-purpose hunting/plinking gun.

[Rickster]

I would stay away from the China/Benji NP.
And the triggers in the Remington NPSS are horrible. (which I own!)
I think a quality gun with a steel spring is a better value, then a cheapo gun with gas-ram.

I would jump on that 34P for $199 if it was me.

I just might get one myself.

I just noticed that he RWS Model 34 Meisterschütze Pro, with the wood stock is on sale for $215 .

Rick

[cole5169]

While I completely agree with TCups about the usual quality of the scopes and mounts that are bundled into promotional sales, I gotta say, I actually look for those packages...

Sure, they're usually not up to the quality of the gun I'm buying, but I have piles of Crosman and Daisy pumpers that really shine with bargain scopes and rings.  Also, it's nice to have a few 4x32's laying about that I can lend out when one of the kids (my nieces) gets a new rifle, or drops her gun on a cinder block (which has happened twice).

That out of the way, let me say yeah, you should get the right scope for your gun separately.

-JC

[GUNNER30506]

Who is selling the compact in the U.S.A.    Thanks

[Mark 611]

Manou Bro's or Ponoma Airguns !

[Meann-Machine]

Ray,

 Unless I have missed it somewhere, the question I have for you is, "What do you want to do with the rifle?", or put another way, "Why these two?"

[ray1377]

I want a .177 caliber break barrel that is easy to shoot and carry for plinking and light varmit control.
Not really looking for a 8 lb. monster that shoot at a gazillion fps.
I had a beeman RS2 once and it weighed so much that you couldn't hope to hold it and shoot off-handed and get any accuracy from it.
It had to be shot from a shooting bench with a light artillery hold to get any good groups with it.
And hunting with it would give you out in no time.
I own Remington powder burning deer rifles that didn't weigh as much.
I really like the looks of the new Benjamin NP series of rifles.
But RWS also makes nice rifles and has for a very long time.

[grackledown]

The Benjamin weighs 8 lbs. and the RWS weighs 7.7 lbs. So neither one really meets your criteria. There are some quality rifles that do (HW50 , R7, Lightning XL, etc.), but none that I know of in this price range.

[arnie3981]

RWS34 all the way. I own a wood stock version tuned with a JM tune kit and it will out-shoot the $500+ springers any day! The trigger breaks crisp and can be adjusted to your liking. In the price range, I think this is the best deal one can have. I wont mind a Panther model for its all weather stock!

For people who are hung up with the "all-german" made, please bear in mind that they dont make every part themselves, they haven't done it ever. The piston seals are outsourced by every European company to some other local guy and the Diana stocks are made in Italy.