Mendoza RM-600

fnash - 1/16/2007 6:49 PM I have a Diana 350 and all my crony readings are higher for the same pellets which I have than shown by Straightshooters. I have a Beta chrony. Don't know that it proves anything, other than maybe all of them don't register the same velocity. Slight difference between each rifle. FN

Is the 350 loud? Does it prefer heavy pellets? Do lighter pellets go close to mach 1 and become inaccurate? How is the accuracy with your preffered pellet?

The Mendoza will shoot 80 meters with the Kodiak 10.6 [out at a lake, shooting leaves, etc] staying on line w/o wind but missing a few ft over or under. Using the car and a towel as a rest. Also using a Bushnell 4-12 X40 scope.

I swear it sounds like a 3/4 .22 rimfire. Your comments!

Dave

[Gene_SC]

Vince

Could you please buy the Mendoza RM 600, and give us the rundown...

Here is the link to the Mendoza.. $127.00 .177...... The .22 is $143.00

http://www.onpointsupply.com/cart.php?target=product&product_id=426...

http://www.onpointsupply.com/cart.php?target=category&category_id=1...


Gene

[fnash]

Recall on RM 622.....http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recalls_03/crosman.html
Don't know it this is known by all concerned..... FN

[fnash]

I personaly don't  think the 350 is to loud... I live in the country with open spaces and don't pay much attention to it. It has not broke the sound barrier as yet. It shoots so many pellets so well I don't know which to choose as the favorite. It does shoot in a straight line in elevation and like you mentioned will shoot high or low depending on the pellet weight. It shoots very accurate with pellet weights from 14gr to plus 15gr.. The Beeman Kodiak at over 21gr is accurate also but at long range shoots low, groups great. At 60 yards the lighter pellets are still shooting high and the Kodiak equally low. A person can go nuts at times trying to figure all this out. I have several rifles and am at the point to zero the more powerful at 20 yards and the lower power at about 15 yards and forget the rest. FN

[Gene_SC]

Frank

I do not know if the RM622 is still made but it is not the Mendoza we have been discussing. But it is great information for our members.

Thanks
Gene

[vinceb]

Lesseee... if they ship to NJ, I'll say - definitely maybe. I just ordered an RWS34, and while I still have a little left over in my airgun budget... I'd hafta sell something else to cover it.

But wifey is pretty easy-going about it - she'd let me get this one first!

[vinceb]

They ship to NJ.

I'll let ya know what I'm a-gonna do...

[daved]

I pretty much have to agree with what FN said.  My 350 .22 seems to prefer the lighter weight pellets, 14.5 to 16.5 gr.  Best accuracy and power, especially with Predators at 16.5 gr.  It also seems to prefer longer pellets, I get the most power from FTS's, but it throws them all over the place.  Nearly all my chrony numbers were higher than SS's also.  I have a nearly new Chrony Beta, I set it up 3 ft. from the muzzle.  

Mine doesn't seem loud to me, either.  Even shooting in my shop, I'd have to say the pellet hitting the back of my trap is noisier than the gun.  Trap is home made, but the back is an angled peice of 3/8" aluminum screwed to 1 1/8" concrete form plywood.  Lots of long screws with rubber washers under them, so it doesn't ring, just SMACK!  Weighs a ton, but it does the job.  Never had a pellet go supersonic, fastest so far has been FTS's at 867 fps.  BTW, RWS, the importer, claims 1100 fps.  Diana, the manufacturer, only claims 900.  I think it will do it with the right pellet, maybe RWS Hobbies, or what's the Beeman Silver Bear weigh in .22?  They're light weights in .177, only 7.1 gr, shot some in my CFX last night, avg. 940 fps.  Now I need to try them for accuracy.  HTH.

Dave

fnash - 1/16/2007 9:00 PM I personaly don't think the 350 is to loud... I live in the country with open spaces and don't pay much attention to it. It has not broke the sound barrier as yet. It shoots so many pellets so well I don't know which to choose as the favorite. It does shoot in a straight line in elevation and like you mentioned will shoot high or low depending on the pellet weight. It shoots very accurate with pellet weights from 14gr to plus 15gr.. The Beeman Kodiak at over 21gr is accurate also but at long range shoots low, groups great. At 60 yards the lighter pellets are still shooting high and the Kodiak equally low. A person can go nuts at times trying to figure all this out. I have several rifles and am at the point to zero the more powerful at 20 yards and the lower power at about 15 yards and forget the rest. FN

I've been toldthe .177 is louder than the .22's.

Fnash

I'm told the .177 is louder than the .22. bigger straw to displace the pressure. My .177 wants to shoot the heaviest pellet out there which is the Kodiak heavy at 10.6.So itsounds reasonable for the .22 shooting the 14 grain pellet.

It took me about 1000 rounds for the rifle to break in. I have heard the spring and piston could use tuning as the power plant welds are the worst part of the rifle.

I do not know how to do a tune or have the tools ie: spring compressor.

Cheers

Dave

I'm not used to this format. I posted In the wrong place before. Sry

Fnash

I'm told the .177 is louder than the .22. bigger straw to displace the pressure. My .177 wants to shoot the heaviest pellet out there which is the Kodiak heavy at 10.6.So itsounds reasonable for the .22 shooting the 14 grain pellet. It took me about 1000 rounds for the rifle to break in. I have heard the spring and piston could use tuning as the power plant welds are the worst part of the rifle. It may take awhile for the moving parts to wear in.

I do not know how to do a tune or have the tools ie: spring compressor.

Cheers

[vinceb]

I got off the phone with the service guy for RWS, I was trying to find out what the warranty was on these guns. He honestly didn't know, and he mentioned that RWS stopped dealing with them because they were problematic. They are re-negotiating with Mendoza in an attempt to get the problems solved, and may start carrying them again at some time in the future.

I mentioned that I had found the rifle for a little over $140, and he said something like "Heck, I can sell you a refurbished model 34 for $130!"

Turns out that RWS sells refurb guns, and that these guns are (according to them) in very good cosmetic condition. Didn't think to ask him about the warranty, though...

yeah, they told me last week they had RWS 48's refurb in excellent mechanical condition and very good cosmetic condition for 226.xx. The cheapest new is midsouth at 289.00. He said they have no warranty, that some guns have never been fired but others may have been but who knows how much. He said all guns are inspected and/or repired if they need it by their gunsmiths and then put up for sale. Anyone ever bought any kind of refurb? This could be an option for poor folk like me!

[vinceb]

The cosmetic condition was so-so, but the gun shot fine. The S1 itself, however, is not an outstanding gun in its field. Not terrible, but not great.

Gamo refurbs are well documented, and run the gamut from indistiguishable from new all the way to "ECH!". I had a refurb 440 that came with a "Lifetime Warranty" sticker on it, although I'm not sure this is really the case.

I haven't oiled the gun in a month and the Mendoza still waftssmoke out of the barrel or breech. The gun shop said it was because of the temperatures generated by the piston. But it is weird. Although I'm very happy with it I wouldn't want anyone to buy one on my limited experience.

Cheers

Dave