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Offline PeakChick

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RE: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2009, 02:45:22 AM »
Dutch, my Sportsman HV is a very well built, very accurate, very powerful rifle. The rifle has been completely reliable with no issues at all. The Sportsman HV is just an unregluated Hornet. Typically I shoot about 20-30 shots and then top off the reservoir with my FX pump. It ususally takes only about 30-40 pump storkes to bring the rifle back up to 220-230 BAR. The trigger is very adjustable, but mine is in stock adjustment as delivered, very good for a hunting rifle. The Sportsman HV is quite loud in stock trim. It is not shrouded or moderated as stock. The barrel end is threaded with standard 1/2 x 20 UNF thread for barrel "accessories." Mine does have an aftermarket LDC on it and is quite neighborhood friendly now. You can PM for about the rifle if you wish.
The current stable, (arsenal, quiver?): BSA Lightning XL .177, BSA Sportsman HV .22, BSA Ultra .177, CZ634 .177, Daystate Harrier X .177, TAU 200 Senior .177, HW 97 .177, HW 50s .177, HW 30 .177, RWS 92 .177, Gamo 126 MC Super, Gamo Big Cat .177, AR2078A, QB78 .177, Quest 1000 .177, Beeman SS650 .177., Beeman P17 .177.
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RE: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2009, 04:11:34 AM »
Scott, just adding that I did buy another BSA Lightning XL .177. And everything Peak has written is exactly how I feel about them. So no need to write any thing else. Peak has said it all..:)
THE ONES I SLEEP WITH: BSA Lightning XL, AA TX-200, AA ProSport, BSA Ultra, HW-97K, Crosman NPSS .177, FX Cyclone, HW-30 Nicle Plated, AA-S200, Crosman Marauder, CZ-634, R-9 DG, Webley/Scott UK Tomahawk, Benji Kantana, Benji Marauder, Benji Discovery.....
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RE: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2009, 04:28:01 PM »
Hi,

   In reading your review I noticed that you mentioned considering the HW 97K. I also noticed that you already have an HW 97 .177. Is there a HW 97 & an HW 97K? If so, what are the differences? I just bought an HW 97 MKIII .177 from AOA that shipped today, & am just curious to know if you could clear this up?  By the way, although I a fairly new to the hobby I've read your interest along with others on the AA TX200 MKIII. I bought one in Beech .177 about 3 months ago and put a Leapers 4-16x56 RG AO Accushot scope on it. It quickly became my favorite rifle. Recently I bought the matching Walnut rifle with a Centerpoint 4-16x56 RG AO scope on it. I sighted it in today in about 5 minutes. I can't recommend this gun highly enough. The quality of workmanship is outstanding. The cocking effort is a little less than my BSA XL Tactical which I believe is about the same as your Lightning. It is as smooth as glass! The wood finish on Beech or Walnut is just superb. But, most importantly..... It shoots like a dream! Yes, it's a little heavey. No, I wouldn't take it hunting. I would take my BSA. But for FT shooting, I would put it up against anything else I own. Maybe, just maybe until I receive my HW 97 MKIII Friday.  Thanks for the review, & if you could clear up the HW 97 & the 97 confusion for me I would be very much thankful.

Geoff
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RE: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2009, 06:18:34 PM »
Geoff The HW97K is the carbine version of the HW97

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RE: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2009, 01:17:45 AM »
Geoff, I did indeed get an HW97K, sometime after I bought my Lightning. As Leadbottom mentioned, the HW97K is the carbine (Karbine in Deustch) version of the HW97. The HW97K is the most common version you'll see in that rifle. I think the longer barrel HW97 is pretty hard to find this side of the pond these days. The HW77 uses the same action, basically as the HW97 and is available in the full length rifle more commonly. The HW77 does have a more European conventional stock profile on it. The HW97K has a stock more oriented to scope only use, with a much higher comb. The HW97 and TX200 are the most used springer rifles for FT competition an I fell it is really neck and neck between the two as to which is the better rifle. My HW97K is brilliantly accurate, very easy one hole groups at 10m, almost too easy. I have an Air Force 4-16 x 50 AO scope on my HW97K in a one piece, high mount. This is a somewhat heavy rifle, by design, as the added heft tend to stabilize the rifle in off hand shooting for FT, the TX 200 shares the same design philosophy. My HW97 certainly has the accuracy to be a fine hunting rifle, but I would probably only consider it for hunting from a fixed stand or hide, as it would be a bit more weight than I would want to tote around on a walking hunt all day.
The current stable, (arsenal, quiver?): BSA Lightning XL .177, BSA Sportsman HV .22, BSA Ultra .177, CZ634 .177, Daystate Harrier X .177, TAU 200 Senior .177, HW 97 .177, HW 50s .177, HW 30 .177, RWS 92 .177, Gamo 126 MC Super, Gamo Big Cat .177, AR2078A, QB78 .177, Quest 1000 .177, Beeman SS650 .177., Beeman P17 .177.
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Re: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2009, 01:36:41 AM »
I must mention that the HW-77 and 97 are superbly well designed. After doing several tunes on these models I cannot say enough about the solid build and design. They are IMO, one of the best built springers available. Should last several life times..:)
THE ONES I SLEEP WITH: BSA Lightning XL, AA TX-200, AA ProSport, BSA Ultra, HW-97K, Crosman NPSS .177, FX Cyclone, HW-30 Nicle Plated, AA-S200, Crosman Marauder, CZ-634, R-9 DG, Webley/Scott UK Tomahawk, Benji Kantana, Benji Marauder, Benji Discovery.....
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Re: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2009, 04:32:38 AM »
Thank you all for the replies. I received my HW 97K yesterday. Wow! I couldn't stop shooting it for several hours. I had said previously that my (2) TX200's were my favorite rifle until yesterday... Now, it is definitely a tie between the two. The HW 97K is strikingly beautiful! It shoots like a dream. I have been shooting in my backyard at 25 yards, & can nearly put pellets on top of each other. It's so much fun to shoot a rifle of this quality. The main thing I notice with my new acquisition is the cocking effort. It is a little easier on the Beeman & smooth as silk. The top loading breech is nice being able to load on the left or right as apposed to the TX200 you can only load on the right. With the Centerpoint 4-16x56 scope I put on it is a little difficult to squeeze my fingers in to load. I don't have large hands, but the 56mm objective is about 1-2mm away from the breech and barrel. I used the highest rings I could, from AOA but this was the best I could do, and shouldn't expect much else with that large of a scope. Bottom line, I LOVE this rifle, & it will obviously be one of those heirloom items you will pass down to your children one day, WAAAAAY down the road. Before the HW97K I would recommend the TX200 every time. Now, I would just have to say to the potential buyer, pick either. At the $600 price point of either rifle, you can not go wrong. I am glad I was fortunate enough to have two of the TX200's & my new Beeman. They are definitely my favorite out of approx. a dozen rifles!!!
Thank you everyone again for your input, and clarification on the 97 & 97K... This cleared things up very well.
Geoff
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Re: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2009, 04:44:09 AM »
Congratulations Geoff on a superb springer choice.  Happy shooting and have lots of fun...:) We will want to see some pictures also...:)
THE ONES I SLEEP WITH: BSA Lightning XL, AA TX-200, AA ProSport, BSA Ultra, HW-97K, Crosman NPSS .177, FX Cyclone, HW-30 Nicle Plated, AA-S200, Crosman Marauder, CZ-634, R-9 DG, Webley/Scott UK Tomahawk, Benji Kantana, Benji Marauder, Benji Discovery.....
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Re: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2009, 12:00:34 PM »
Nice Gun!  and for a good deal!
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Re: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2009, 04:33:18 PM »
Thank you..... I will post pictures here as soon as possible.
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Re: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2009, 03:33:34 PM »
A few of you asked for some pictures of my rifles. I took some today, but can't for the life of me figure out how to upload them. I keep getting error messages. Any advice on the simplest way to do this would be great, then I can make you all happy with some pics.
Thanks in advance,
Geoff
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RE: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2009, 10:46:30 AM »
Over the pond here ,the Lightnings and other BSA`s are well-liked,but recently the prices have crept up a tad.The new model Walnut stocked Lightning XL ,now goes for £330 ,the beach one lists at £303,so if you see one at a reasonable price GRAB IT! To put this in context,a TX200HC can be had for £335,so not many people at my club are buying BSA springers (I`m the secy of Juniper Green Air Rifle Club;biggest club in Scotland) http://jgarc.org.uk/ There are also strong rumours that the very latest BSA`s are to be assembled at Gamo`s plant in Spain :another good reason to grab a BSA springer NOW! (hell buy two!!,you won`t regret it!)
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Re: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2009, 12:59:31 PM »
We heard that BSA was sending there springer's to Gamo. And I bought a second one like you suggested.
THE ONES I SLEEP WITH: BSA Lightning XL, AA TX-200, AA ProSport, BSA Ultra, HW-97K, Crosman NPSS .177, FX Cyclone, HW-30 Nicle Plated, AA-S200, Crosman Marauder, CZ-634, R-9 DG, Webley/Scott UK Tomahawk, Benji Kantana, Benji Marauder, Benji Discovery.....
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Re: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2009, 02:39:54 AM »
Just found out ,my local dealer had a Supersport and a basic Lightning (not XL) with Gamo style seriel no.s.The componants are still made in Birmingham,but the assembly is done in Spain,so if any viewers even see a decent s/hand BSA springer it might be a better (wiser) buy than ever.

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Original (Diana) Mod.5 Pistol 0.22
Baikal 0.177 Target Pistol.
Webley Nemesis 0.177 Pistol.
HW35k 0.22

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Re: BSA Lightning XL .177
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2009, 03:30:00 PM »
Evening folks.  Logged on for some light reading and saw this thread.  Was wondering if someone could expand on the BSA being assembled in Spain issue.  I just picked up a Sportsman HV on closeout at SW.  Was really on the fence because they only had two left and both had issues.  Excess glue on the pad on both and the pads are about 1/8th oversized.  One with some incomplete staining in the checkered area on one side.  Everything else looked fine and I picked up the one with the poor stain because the wood was much nicer.  The serial number is 4B 2237 and it says made in England.  Could this either be sloppiness of them  closing the line or else do I have a made in Spain issue?

On another note this purchase wasn't even on the radar, went in for some of the BSA pellets for a friend.  I have no way of shooting the damn thing  but it reminded be of my Lightning and they do seem well made from this beginner's perspective.

Thanks, Ron