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Offline preez

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Re: BAM B26 sporter first impressions
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2007, 12:14:36 PM »
Thank you Bob for clarifyng that. As always, You da man!!

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RE: BAM B26 sporter first impressions
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2007, 01:39:33 PM »
As long as I get a spread of anything inside of 20, I consider it pretty good but of course inside of ten is great. :D

You didn't mention how many coils are in the new spring or the wire diameter.

In the stock spring, counting the end coils, there are/should be 41 coils of .118 (3mm) wire. This will give you a stacked coil height of approximately 4.83"

 In your new spring, multiply the number of coils by the wire diameter.
Example:
  Coils .........38 x
 Wire dia.    .121
 -- ------------------------
 >>>>> =4.598

Now subtract your new spring stacked height. from your factory spring stacked height.
.......... 4.838
.......  - 4.598
------------------------
>>>> =.240 difference
                                         
You now know that you can now add a .240 (or 1/4 inch)  spacer to the spring, preferably out of Delrin or a hard Nylon.  8) This should provide you with a bit more power but still be close to the factory specs and yet be pretty smooth. You would/should be able to push the spring close to 3/8 inches but you will be close to coil bind I believe. I always figure in about .125 for future wear and tear and not have to worry about it not cocking. If you add a steel spring spacer there is a good chance that the weight will cause it to shoot a bit harder and harsher.

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RE: BAM B26 sporter first impressions
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2007, 02:09:56 PM »
Ooops... fer got to answer yer question.... duh... :o

When prepping the cylinder, it should be polished smooth for leather, first 200 then 400 then 600. I usually use  220 to 300 grit for cross hatching for synthetic seals depending on the material of the seal. I always use a three point hone (broke my four point and can't find another one like it)  although some guys use paper or emery with a dowel. It will work but it's no where near as efficient and as even as using a hone. Do not use a 2 point hone.
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Re: BAM B26 sporter first impressions
« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2007, 03:23:45 PM »
Thanks Bob, I figured I could space her up a bit.  I've consulted my preacher, my astrologer, my family doctor, and finally Dave Dunn and decided that I am going to leave well enough alone, she is shooting real nice and I don't feel like getting more spring tar on my wifes kitchen counters:)  I think all that is left is for me to learn how to shoot it correctly and we'll be in business....and like I said before, if I am feeling real low about my shooting skills I'll just pull out my PCP to cheer myself up:)

BTW: I believe I used the standard B26 tune kit JM sells:
http://www.airguns.citymax.com/catalog/item/251488/4038389.htm
Not sure what spring that came with and I didn't hook the calipers on it to find out.  If at some point I do decide to take her back apart to space it up I'll let y'all know what I find out.  It's set length was a fair bit shorter than stock though, like somewhere between 1"- 1 1/2" IIRC.  Dangit, now you've got me thinking, and thinking is dangerous....I'd better leave well enough alone...hehe!!!!

Thanks again,
Dan

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Re: BAM B26 sporter first impressions
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2008, 05:47:10 PM »
Why not use a 2 point hone?
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Re: BAM B26 sporter first impressions
« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2008, 01:21:56 AM »
Using a 2 point hone does not stay centered and hone evenly as well as a three point hone. A three point hone will always be centered with even pressure as long as it is straight in the tube.
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Re: BAM B26 sporter first impressions
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2008, 12:22:55 PM »
Sound good to me. I need to get some new stones for my 3 point hone anyway. This'll keep me from being tempted to buy a 2 point.
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