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Working on a Benji
« on: May 14, 2008, 10:44:28 PM »
Blue Streak, older model. Question fella's before I pull her apart, what's the pump piston seal material made of. I'm thinking rubber etc. but want to get the skinny on it before I pull her apart. She pump's but wont hold pressure which tell's me that the seal is bad I'm thinking. So what do we have fella's, thank's .  Ed
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RE: Working on a Benji got pic
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2008, 11:04:34 PM »
Ok I couldn't wait lol, I pulled her apart here's what I got. Piston/shaft and cap on the end. Now there's a O- ring but it was just sitting in front of the piston, does this fit over it and into the grooved area on the piston. Thank's, Ed
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RE: Working on a Benji got pic
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2008, 11:46:58 PM »
If it pumps up but won't hold pressure it is probably the check valve. I have the same problem with a 392. The fix from Crosman is not expensive.

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RE: Working on a Benji got pic
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 11:54:24 PM »
Nope it wont pump up, no resistance when pumping, does the O-ring go onto the piston, thank's . Ed
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RE: Working on a Benji got pic
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2008, 11:55:11 PM »
Ed the rubber pump seal is working fine if she pumps up. here is an online diagram to a sheridan rebuild. http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/message/1177168737/sheridan+C9+rebuild in figure 5 you see all the internal parts disassembled. the valves and lead washers need to be replaced. there is a guy on gunbroker who sells the kits. it comes with new pump seal lead washers new valves and tools to do the job. here is a link to his auction. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=99625226
I just rebuilt a 1969 sheridan rocker safety blue streak with this kit and it worked flawlessly.
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RE: Working on a Benji got pic
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2008, 12:00:13 AM »
Thank's Chris, that helps is it possable to just replace the rubber O-ring and does that seat into the grooved area on the piston?.thank's, Ed
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RE: Working on a Benji got pic
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2008, 12:12:33 AM »
Ed, I didn't have that o ring in mine and if you look at the diagram I don't see that o ring on there either. not sure how old your rifle is but it wasn't on mine. a 1969 model blue streak. I replaced the pump seal 1st and she pumped up but just leaked out the barrel. then i bought the kit and repaced all the valves and seals and she shot good as new and is still holding fine. I store the gun with 1 pump in it.
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RE: Working on a Benji got pic
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2008, 12:22:05 AM »
I'm working on it for a friend and when I pulled her apart the piston and shaft came out with the O-ring just sitting on the end. I'm wondering if the O-ring seat's at the base of the tube and the black hard plastic end on the piston is just wore down and not creating pressure. Ed
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RE: Working on a Benji got pic
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2008, 12:31:05 AM »
not sure on the O-ring but the piston head ( plunger) should be pliable not hard. it is made of rubber. when I took the piston seal/ plunger off of mine it was very hard and brittle. I had to use a dremel to cut it in half and get it off. the new 1 was soft rubber and popped right on into the groove.
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RE: Working on a Benji got pic
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2008, 12:33:31 AM »
if the rubber plunger is brittle then the other rubber internal seals are probably dry and brittle to and need to be replaced. the kit I gave you the link to has all the parts and tools to do the job.
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RE: Working on a Benji got pic
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2008, 12:35:25 AM »
Thank's again and that's the problem it is hard and brittle, need's a new one for sure. Thank's a bunch for the replies guy's.:) Ed
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RE: Can I order just the rubber piston seal
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2008, 12:58:43 AM »
The seal is in a bad way and I popped it out of the piston. Ed
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RE: Can I order just the rubber piston seal
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2008, 01:00:34 AM »
Got the link, thank's. Ed
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RE: Can I order just the rubber piston seal
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2008, 11:35:50 PM »
Just looking to replace the rubber pistion seal, all other seals are good. Can I just get the seal and where, thank's. Ed
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RE: Can I order just the rubber piston seal
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