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Offline TCups

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Re: 5-4, It Passed!
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2008, 04:07:00 PM »
BTW, "It" didn't "pass", "It" survived.  "It" is the 2nd Amendment.
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RE: 5-4, It Passed!
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2008, 04:46:59 PM »
I read this one in a comment on one of the news sites:

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"A well educated society, being necessary to the prosperity of a free state, the right of the people to own and read books, shall not be infringed"

Individual or collective?  Do only well educated people get to have books, or does everyone get to have books?  Is "well educated" a prerequisite for owning books, or one of the many outcomes of owning them?

If you argue that "militia" is a prerequisite to "keep and bear", wouldn't you also have to argue that "well educated" would be a prerequisite to "own and read"?  I'd love to hear someone defend that argument.  I doubt such a defense would be coming from any "well educated" person.

Alternately, why would a government declare that "The right of our military to bear arms shall not be infringed".  Duh.  What army doesn't have guns?   What else could the founding fathers have meant in the second amendment, other than the general populace?

Finally!  There's no need to debate the meaning any further, not that a debate should have ever existed.  The Supreme Court has clearly ruled on it.  Today is a very good day in my book.  I'm still mystified how something that seems so clear could be so misinterpreted that it required the Supreme Court to settle it.  But it's done.
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RE: 5-4, It Passed!
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2008, 05:07:12 PM »


I hate to say it, But George Orwell's Animal Farm, will come !



When ? I cant tell for sure, but those that wish to control the world are patient, and will wait a little longer.



Consider that they have waited for more than 250 years, time is only in the taking.



They control the oil, and we are its slaves, so they already control us !



What a shame !



Perhaps they have returned our guns so that we can commit suicide, and succeed the Union.

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Re: 5-4, It Passed!
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2008, 06:44:30 PM »


As per my signature, you all know where I stand.



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RE: 5-4, It Passed!
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2008, 02:44:11 AM »
I wish there was a way to edit...   because so far as I know...   no-one "bars" arms.  Anyone know how to edit on this thing?
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2nd Amendment has been long gone.
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2008, 05:09:56 AM »
The right to bear arms was writtento allow the individual todefend against any tyrant {armed opressor}buteloquently put "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote."
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This is not the case in the US, because the 1934 National Firearms Actand the Gun Control Act of 1968leave the 'people' powerless to act againstany 'tyrant wolf'. The 1986 GCA amendment already has a ruling available. Care to guess which way the wind blew?
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Re: 5-4, It Passed!
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2008, 05:38:37 AM »
You make a strong point J."Shall not be infringed" could/should only be interpreted one way.
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RE: 5-4, It Passed!
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2008, 06:22:35 AM »


Hey Matt,



After a few minutes, you can't edit. You'll have to get one of the AirGun Gate moderators to change it for you.



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What is gained through 'interpretation'?
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2008, 08:29:00 AM »
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Progun - 6/27/2008 1:38 PM You make a strong point J."Shall not be infringed" could/should only be interpreted one way.
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The founding fathers understood history well. The Federalist Papers are a very important insight into whatreasons were behindthe original ideas and what liberty is supposed to be.
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Patrick Henry stated "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government; lest it come to dominate our lives and interests." for good reason.
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From what I have read and studied, the original intent was a non interference law structure. Do as you wish,solong as what you are doinginfringes upon nobody else.
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Unfortunately for 'we the people', the current zeitgeistapproves only the most advancedNWO agendas for mass media distribution,and utilizes theespecially heavy handed'governing tactics' specific to sheeple control infringements.
Even worse is this 'new generation' of thought policeinterfering with every aspect of daily strife . . .
The agenda has alreadybeen uploaded andinstalled, but 'We the people' have a virus that can wipe out thatNWOagenda. The truth. The truth is that NWO put together the Third Reich, desires population control, fabricated the energy crisis, and orchestratedthe terrorist plots to create a unified enemy out of the Jews terrorists.
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So what is actuallygained through interpretation becomes obvious.
Sheeple governed into
No way, this is the US andthat can't happen here.
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Can it?
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RE: What is gained through 'interpretation'?
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2008, 09:24:24 AM »
Based on the degradation to obscure political reference, I have moved this to the "Back Room." I feel continuing this thread in this section of the forum is more appropriate. Thanks to all.
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Re: 5-4, It Passed!
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2008, 07:21:31 PM »
I've been cautious in what I brought forward in my posts. Now I feel this is not only a Great Place to Be but find myself among unknown friends. God bless and Deo Vindice. Jeep98
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CSA was all about fighting against 'unapportioned' tax.
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2008, 07:53:04 AM »
Unfortunately, the victor 'rewrites' history to suit their agendas . . .
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Now 'unapportioned' taxation is at a critical all time pinnacle that is likely to drive pricesout of the working classcapacity forfunds.
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That was why the convention considering secession in 1860 sent the deadline terms to the Federal establishment.
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We the sheeple, are in foran even rougher tyrannicalride this go round, without the hardware thesecond amendmentused to protect . . .
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Re: 5-4, It Passed!
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2008, 01:39:32 PM »
3n00n; For some reason most people tend to skip past the truth so as not to confuse themselves. I started waking up in the early 1990s after reading 'The South was Right' by the Kennedy Bros. Each chapter hitting you aside the head and saying go ahead, check it out.  Its been a learning experience ever since.  John 8:32 The truth does make you free.  Jeep98
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When the truth is accepted, 'bank notes' will cease to be.
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2008, 02:56:42 PM »
In an atmosphere of deceit; truth, by its very nature, becomes an act of revolution.
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Unapportioned taxation is sheeple control. Bycurtailingfunds of the 'have nots', the 'haves' may more easily 'pen and fleece' the sheeple, thus control is thereby maintained.
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Are cattle free? Do they think for themselves? Who makes criticaldecisions forthe sheeple? Certainly not the sheeple themselves.
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The sheeple may pretend to themselves that they are making decisions, but the puppet masters have already fleeced the wallet of the sheepleimpotent, incapable of standing against the giant tyrant.
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