CFX #2 a Dud

Several months ago I ordered a Gamo CFX w/Air Venturi gas ram power plant from PA.  It arrived and was found to be a bit under powered in comparison to my Big Cat and Whisper which are both springer types.  I sent the 1st CFX back after also finding barrel droop so excessive that using a scope beyond 10 yards or so was out of the question.  Well, ~5 weeks later I finally get a replacement gun.  I immediately chrony the gun to find it does good to push a 7.9gr CPL to a paltry velocity of 725fps.  I didn't even bother cleaning the light coat of grease off the receiver let alone mounting a scope on the gun.  I boxed it up and sent it back too.  During all of this PA had sent me an email for each gun, asking me to rate/review the gun.  I skipped the opportunity on the 1st gun but did go review the 2nd gun.  Despite my review stating the gun was good, they apparenlty decided not to post my review as I had a disclaimer at the end that stated something to the effect of, "I'm still unsure of the Air Venturi ..... blah blah blah."  I wish I could remember exactly what I put in my review.  Overall the guns shot really smooth & accurately.  Only if either would have kept velocities closer to what would have been expected and didn't suffer from barrel droop, I would still be shooting one them.  Now to see if they're up to the challenge of putting together a CFX that's capable of at least 880fps and capable of having a scope work on it.  If not, they still have the option of a refund.  I truly would like to have a gun worthy of RAVE reviews.

[Big_Bill]

Sorry for your being unable to receive the advertised CFX Rob,

The Biggest problem of Pyramyd Air's reviews, are their advertisement value to Pyramyd Air !

If it's air piston power that you desire, I would buy one of the Theoben models for the CFX, and either have it installed, or install it yourself.

Bill

True... advertising goes a long way.  What really eats at me is that both of my springer Gamos shoot about the same velocity.  Then PA takes the spring powered Whisper (like I own) and puts it in a video review up against their Air Venturi powered Whisper.  The video plainly shows the air ram version keeping up with or exceeding that of the springer.  So far both of the air ram versions of the CFX have been ~20% slower than the spring version.  Now suppose I promised you $1000 for a week's work but only paid you $800.  Don't you think you'd be a little disappointed too?  Or maybe I can use this ideaoliogy against PA and only pay them 80% of what they ask?

[Splash]

Sorry to hear about your troubles Rob. 725fps would not be acceptable to me either, unless it was super accurate, and smooth or .22. The .22 CFX that I had wasn't too much slower than that, 685fps, with 14.3 CP's IIRC. So will it be 3rd times the charm, or 3 strikes your out? If I were you I would get a CFX from Natchez $159, have it sent to Bob for a tune and forget about the Air Venturi. I know Natchez won't sell to Bama folks, but I'm sure you and Bob could work something out, to get around that.

[preez]

Rob, I second what Mike said. Forget about AirVenturi gas ram, for some reason it does not work for the cfx, never did. PA should either advertise true velocities for the conversion or just stop installing it in the cfx.

Chris

IRBent - 7/1/2008  9:52 AM

Despite my review stating the gun was good, they apparenlty decided not to post my review as I had a disclaimer at the end that stated something to the effect of, "I'm still unsure of the Air Venturi ..... blah blah blah."

many people, this site included, can only handle positive feedback. anything to the contrary is either removed or ridiculed.

beware of the people that only allow positive feedback.

-Mark

[Big_Bill]

Hey Mark,

All I can say is, No post has ever been deleted from the GTA Forums.

The only time a post is "ridiculed", or corrected, is when safety is concerned, or when what is being recomended will damage the airgun.

We have many new members that can't tell if what is being said, is good information or not. So if what is being said goes against established knowledge, and is dangerous or damaging to air rifles,the information will be corrected to protect those that do not understand the danger or possible damage that could be caused.

When subject matter gets out of hand on the Back Room, or illegal subjects are discussed, we will ask that the discussion be ended for that reason.

I don't know of any other forum, that can say that.

Bill

[Splash]

Yeah, what Bill said. I've been a member for a looong time and spend at least a couple hours a day here, cept for twice when I was on vacation. I can only think of one occasion, when someone might have been rubbed the wrong way and that was, because they kept asking the same ?'s, over and over about a CFX, after they were answered many times.

Guys, this is why I've always held this site in high regard.  The people here are great to feed you info without too much prejudice.  Yeah, there's always somebody who thinks their gun is the best in comparison to another.  That's a part of decision making.  But when it comes down to real info, you guys have always been able to supply me with answers for what I was asking.  I've attempted to do the same to others as it's common courtesy in my opinion.  Maybe I'll swing a deal with CharliedaTuna if PA ever comes through.  To be honest, I don't know, or even care, if they're going to send me CFX # 3 or simply give me a refund.  Of late I have not had time to mess with the gun anyway because my dumb butt decided to try gardening.  Anybody need squash?  LOL

[Splash]

I wish that I could still work a garden, I sure do miss it. The last one I planted, one of my cousins came and said you must have gotten an early start this year. I told him I just planted 3wks ago, want some squash,hehe. I had way more squash, tomatoes, peppers, okra and beans than I could give away. Rob, if you got extra, I'm sure my uncle would like some, I'll PM you his # if you do.

[riarcher]

I'm getting dissapointed in PA myself.
Completed 3 reviews, nothing published.
When I order, same day says "ready to ship", 2 days later it's in shipping. For an extra $5.00 they'll ship it the same day they put it up. Don't know about you, but it smells like a scam to me.
Always send note with order saying all items shown as in stock. If there is a problem let me know and I'll change order. Waited over a week, finally got word that order was shipped. During that time I asked twice if there was a problem/ no response.
Funny how they spend all sorts of time and effort to win a customer, them pee on them. Must not like the repeat buisness? have a few bad apples in the employment? Just don't give a crap? Communication problems?
Don't know, and don't care anymore either. My money can go elsewheres from now on.
Gary

And my garden is doing fine too. I'll be picking shortly.

[palonej]

Splash!!! I remember that guy!!! I was the one who finally lost my patience and asked what he really wanted and said you guys had the patience of saints!!! I don't think he knew what he wanted!!!! There is a short thread Bob started on this subject. From my friends that bought them, I shot them.......get the springer and let the Tuna Turbo Tune it. Whether it's a Whisper or CFX. That ram just doesn't perform as advertised, and it's too expensive!! They are having a lot of trouble with it. 2 of my friends bought the Whispers with the rams, gave bad reviews and sent them back. Never saw the reviews!! HMMMMMMMMMMMM!!
Joe

Had exactly the same experience. Thinking about sending the second one out to get a .177 barrel installed to see if the velocity will come up to something acceptable.

[palonej]

Dudes!!! Send them back and get the springer!!! Let Tuna Fish tune them, I think price will be just about the same total. My Whisper pre Tuna averaged about 740 fps, with a ton of variation, sometimes 690, sometimes 760. After the tune, with 8.3 gr Gamo hunters I'm averaging a little over 950 fps. Hardly any kick, smooth and easy cocking, no twang.........I could go on and on. I haven't shot with anyone who bought either the CFX or Whisper with that thing that liked it.
Joe

[vinceb]

If the powerplant is a sub-bar performer in .22, it will be so in .177 as well. The CFX powerplant is pretty much the same as many other Gamo springers, and lousy performance in .22 is not normal for it.