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Offline Remo

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RE: Picking that first PCP
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2008, 03:01:31 AM »
Yeah, that was one of the cautions that I read earlier.  Some indicate that it's a problem with pellet feeding, others express concern that some flathead pellets are damaging to seals/O-rings.  Sounds like single shot might be the way to go.
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Offline DanoInTx

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Re: Picking that first PCP
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2008, 02:29:00 PM »
On the S400/S410 the pellets slide across the breach o-ring because it's in the breach area of the barrel rather than on the bolt.  My guess is wadcutters would rub this area in a little harsher way, but then wadcutters aren't going to group all that well at much above 600-700fps, so you're looking at roundnosed pellets from many PCP's anyways.  Even my 12fpe S400C will spit them out pretty fast, mostly beyond wadcutter accuracy.  There are some heavy wadcutters like the RWS Supermags that may slow the gun down enough to group well, but they'd still drag across that o-ring.  JSB Exact roundnose pellets group beautifully in my S400, you only get one hole anyways, why use a wadcutter and make it bigger:)

As for the first PCP debate....I've owned two Chinese PCP's, one FX Black Widow, one TalonSS, one AA S400C, one Korean Career 707 II, one Korean Sumatra Carbine.  So far the Air Arms guns are tough to beat.  I have shot quite a few others and as far as repeaters go I really like the biathalon cocking on the FX Gladi8tor, Cyclone, etc.......  The Air Arms repeaters I've shot I didn't find incredably smooth, but the single shot version I have is really smooth.  The new side lever S410's might be pretty smooth and easy to handle, but I haven't shot one....yet!  

Pump or bottle depends on a few things like how much you shoot, your general health, etc....  I pump and don't mind it at all, but then I don't shoot 2000 rounds everyday...I'm more like 100 rounds a week at most.
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Re: Picking that first PCP
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2008, 03:48:08 PM »


Thanks guys,,,I didn't knowthat the Wad Cutters could damage the o-rings in the AA 410s. I've almost gone through 500 rounds (.22 Daisy Wadcutters bought at Walmarts) between my BSA Scorpion T10 and Air Arms 410s.....at 10 meters they're pretty accurate. I haven't shot further so I can't say if the flatheaded pellets would stay it's course. When I'm done with the flatheads I'll stay with the domes (Crosman Premiers).



The AA 410S that I got have a very easy cocking side lever.....can cock it with just one finger. The bolt action Scorpion T10 requires abit more strength to cock.



I shoot about 60 to 80 rounds in a session...about every 2nd day.....on the day that I happen to choose a PCP....I need to pump it up twice....75 strokes for a 200 BAR for 40 to 50 shots. Not too much of a hassle....but I do work up abit of sweat. I usually pump 40 strokes and take a small break (30 sec. (recommended by the pump instructions....I think it's to avoid heating up the pump which will heat up the air)) and pump the rest.

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