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Author Topic: *****Air Wolf .177*****  (Read 4916 times)
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« on: December 13, 2006, 05:57:30 AM »



This is a quick tale of my first impressions of my new Air Wolf.



I bought it from Airguns of Arizona [AoA], and got good verbal support as I waited for the shipment to make it to their doors, so I'd buy from them again. It came double-boxed, and in spite of the problems I had with UPS losing it, causing a 6-day delay and doing who knows what to it, it arrived unharmed except for a pushed in tear in the inner box. I survived the anxiety until it made it to my door.



I had a surprise when I took the inner box out of the outer box. It said "18fpe" on it. I thought was 20fpe, because on AoA's site, I saw a 19.4fpe on a graph, but this was only with 10.6 Kodiak, I guess.



That was a bummer. It came with a printout of a 8-shot chrony session that averaged 870 with a 10.6 g [looked kinda like a "k", so I assume kodiak]. It was, however, quite good in the average % spread



 Trigger pull ----- 3 1/2 ounces



 Fill pressure = 190 bar



868 high = 875
863* low = 863
870 max diff = 12
875* ============
868 average = 870
870 ============
872 ave spread = 1.4%
866



[hope I didn't screw the math up.]



IMHO, a 20fpe, better yet a 23fpe, would have been better, as you could select down to a lower level if needed with the setting program. That kodiak would have been a lot easier to hit something at 55 yards if it were doing 920+.What's the point of having an adjustable fpe rifle if you start low to begin with?



[Photo - box]



It was packed very well in formed styrene foam, and everything was there.



When I took it out of the factory box, I saw the stock was nice, but didn't seemed to be finished as well as a $2k gun should be, as it was very grainy and porus. After some stock rejuvinator and some gunwax, it now has a nice smooth, satin glow, grips nice [the stock feels GREAT], and looks like filled wood.



The walnut was attractive but plain, which was fine for me, as I would have liked a synth stock and $300 US off and no worrying about denting it. Unfortunately, that wasn't an option, and there are no aftermarket ones available, just very costly one-off custom jobs.



The Scope was mounted and reasonably zeroed. I got a Nikko Sterling 6-24x56 [recommended by AoA], but I missed the the illuminated reticle. Black crosshairs get lost in a black bulls-eye, and the illumination got rid of that problem. It came with an extended sun-shade and a 4" wheel. The markings on the wheel were closer than I expected as I zeroed on my target. The optics seemed clear and focused.



The Harris bipod could have been mounted on the end of the forestock [what there is of it] but I bought one of Tony Tyrer's bottle clamps so I wouldn't have to drill a hole. The rifle still had excellent [for me] balance. It came in just under 11 lbs with the whole kit. Now I have to get familiar with the many programming functions -- alarms and counters and power level etc. -- so I can have full control in the field without having to read the manual.



The gun came with the battery charged, I assumed fully, which is good for 1000 shots, but I wanted to be sure. The charger for the fireing circuits comes with a selection of 6 selectable tips and no instructions. I used the one that fit the socket in the gun. .Then Ifound out from a Daystate Owners Club denizen[DOC] that the center was "+" so I got it going, and fully charged the battery overnight.
The plug did not fit well, and touching it just a little stopped the charging, as seen by the blinking LED going out.I had to keep it pulled to the side to keep it charging.



When I started shooting it [from the top of my barbecue], with the snippets of time I had on the 25yard range I had in my back yard, I had to stop myself from taking the gun off the rest as if trying to break the barrel. That went away after about 10 shots. I then tried the 10-shot magazine, and contrary to what others said, by following the instruction, I got it to work smoothly. You have to fully pull the bolt back to successfully index the cylinderI shoot 10 shots in about 20 seconds with no problem. I almost forgot, the gun is dead quiet. You hear the trigger click, and the pellet hit the backstop and that's it.



The trigger came adjusted from AoA and it had about a quarter-inch of 1st stage, and the letoff is unmeasurable. You touch it, and with the smallest amount of a twitch, it fires. I'm getting used to it, but I accidently fired it every so often.



I could only do about 100 shots, so there isn't much data. A velocity profile may have to wait awhile, with the holiday goings-on, but I'll get my bench out and try some serious shooting when I get a free, cloud-free day. If it snows, I get over to the Westfield Sportsman's Club and use their indoor range.



Unexpectedly, the gun is hold sensitive, though with just a bit of concentration it was easy to cloverleaf.
Unfortunately, cloverleaf's are just not good enough anymore. Once I'm good at 25yds, I'll start going further out.



I got the .177 to be qualified for target shooting, though I thought I saw a few .22's at the last meet I observed..



I enjoy shooting, and it has a 3-year warranty, which can be done here by AoA, rather than sending it to England.



Unless I discover some critical failure somewhere down the line, I'll be getting the 40fpe .22 next summer.



addenda =====





*****My results***** 10.6 kodiak - - - -18 fpe. 877fps



FROM Airguns of Arizona, rifles by brand, Daystate, rifles, Air WolfFeatures:

Fully Baffled Barrel Shroud with Additional Thread on End



Programmable Power Settings



Superb, Adjustable 2-Stage Trigger



10-Shot Magazine or Single Shot Tray (both included)



Two Safety Mechanism for Fully Disabling (two keys included)



External Quick Fill Nozzle



External Fill Pressure Gauge



Gary Cane Designed, High-Grade Walnut Ambi Thumbhole Stock with Rosewood Cap



Chrome Bolt Handle (Available Right or Left Handed)



Many Electronic Features like Shot Counters and Shooting Modes



11mm Dovetail Grooves Along Top of Receiver Block







SPECIFICATIONS


Overall Length



40.5"


Barrel Length



17"


Muzzle Energy


Adjustable down from:

.177 = 19 ft/lbs



.20 = 28 ft/lbs



.22 = 40 ft/lbs



.25 = 45 ft/lbs



Shots Per Fill



(with 30 fps change)


.177 = 180



.20 = 110



.22 = 70



.25 = 70



Rec. Fill Pressure


210-220



Weight


8.3 lbs



Safety


Electronic, Manual (Rotary), Resettable



Metalwork Finish


Satin Black







.177 Caliber Results



180 shots per fill with 30fps total spread



Top velocity of 907 fps with Beeman Kodiak pellets



Maximum power at 19.37 ft/lbs with Beeman Kodiak pellets



*Note - Results will vary from rifle to rifle



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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2006, 04:54:36 AM »



I consider the sweet-spot to be between 1000 - 998, which gives about 120 shots or 90 shots between between 1015 and 1010, which if I were that good a shot, would be nirvana



At 25 yards, with cleaned, lubed CPL's and Daystate FTs, sometimes I can put 10 in the same ragged hole, but other times I shoot all around the 10-ring, but I can't explain why. I use the "A-Team" 20-spot sight-in target for practice, and it's helped me.



I also wish I knew why I still get fliers.



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some pellet results



RWS Hobby [7.0] 1022



CPL [7.9] 970



Kodiak [10.3] 895



CPH [10.5] 883



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A chart of velocities in excel format



Started as a range of 210 bar [3050psi] to 100 bar [1450]



The falloff after 110 bar great, so I trimmed off the first 40 the last 70 [120 bar]
and graphed the "sweet-spot" of 190-120 bar



I made a mistake and used lousy pellets, giving the randomness to the values a bit larger value.



I shoot cpl and daystate FT/Exacts, which act much better, with even tighter values.



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ADDENDA:



I now shoot between 180-140 bar, giving me 100 consistance shots per fill



I intend to do a re-chrony with FTs in this range, and will add it here.



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ADDENDA 2 23mar07



Now use 180-135 bar, more stable velocity



****NEW DATA



will post EXCEL graph with new data after Easter, when my EXCEL expert, my son, shows up.



about 10,000 pellets thru the gun in about 10 weeks
one cleaning after 500 unwashed CPH's clog the barrel moderator, giving me 3" groups at 25 yards
Shoots ragged 1-holers at 30 yards. best - 5 shots .084 c.t.c on a bag.



Gamo cleaned... lots of lead flakes.
The JSBs were very clean and lubed with Napier
The CPH were culled and weighted [60+ bad in a box... lousey QC], REALLY cleaned, lubed with Napier
Eun Jin stock [grouped quite well at 25yds.]



Chronied on 23-mar-07, 555 deg F, F1 master chrony



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samples pellet weight ave fpe
 speed




25 .........JSB exact................very tight velocity
25......... JSB exact heavy.......very tigh velocity
25......... CPH.......................Not so good, tight and loose insertion
25......... Eun Jin.....................tight velocity



---------------------------------- DATA and STATISTICS



--JSB-- 8.4g



1000
1000
995
1001
1007
1005
1007
997
1002
1004
1001
1003
1006
1010
1005
1003
1005
1003
1007
1010
1007
1006
1007
1006
1007


X1
Mean1004.16
S.E.M.0.7386474125
S.D.3.693237063
Variance13.64
Minimum995
Maximum1010
Sum25104
N25
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---JSB HVY--- 10.3g



932
935
940
937
943
934
935
935
938
936
938
932
934
938
932
938
935
941
939
935
935
943
938
948
940


X1
Mean937.24
S.E.M.0.7665507159
S.D.3.832753579
Variance14.69
Minimum932
Maximum948
Sum23431
N25



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--CPH-- 10.5 g



901
911
902
910
906
909
912
906
916
899
909
901
899
909
909
883
899
909
909
895
925
914
897
901
895


X1
Mean905.04
S.E.M.1.694579594
S.D.8.472897969
Variance71.79
Minimum883
Maximum925
Sum22626
N25



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---Eun Jin -- 16 g



755
757
753
749
748
752
752
755
753
749


X1
Mean752.3
S.E.M.0.9315459075
S.D.2.945806813
Variance8.677777778
Minimum748
Maximum757
Sum7523
N10
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addenda 3




.177 airwolf power levels programmed in the computer unit for the trigger



this sucks for 16 power levels



Used Gamo Match pellets [7.5g] because I have a lot of them and they're only good for stuff like this.




power levelfpe
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017.2



115.7



212.1



38.8



44.8



51.3



6stuck in barrel



7-15 wasted







All in all, a great rifle.



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    « Reply #2 on: December 26, 2006, 01:14:24 PM »

    Hey Ed

    Now that is something to be proud of. Thanks for you review with all the extra stuff..Smiley Hope you enjoy your AirWolf as much as I have enjoyed my FX Cyclone..Smiley

    Good Luck buddy

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    « Reply #3 on: March 23, 2007, 06:51:38 PM »

    bump..
    for those who can't find it -=ed has added and edited his orginal post...you can read the new stuff following the old stuff here:
    http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=1407&mid=7650#M7650

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