anyone know anything about winchester airguns?

[Bhawanna]

this looked like a good deal for a walnut stock gun.....what do you think?



WINCHESTER 1000X
Retail: $149.95
Our Price: $119.50
You Save: $30.45 (20%)  
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Caliber: 0.177" Max Velocity: 1050 ft/sec Manufactured by Winchester Limited 1 year warranty  

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Up to 1,000 fps! Real walnut stock! An incredible value! The Winchester 1000X breakbarrel spring-piston air rifle has a Monte Carlo sporter stock made of walnut. The rifled steel barrel is capped with a fiber optic front sight. The micrometer adjustable rear makes it easy to acquire your target.

Use the 1000X for target shooting, plinking, shooting spinners or taking small rodents. Add a scope to squeeze out every last bit of accuracy. You've got the power!

Click the Ammo link for our list of suggested pellets. Find scopes, targets, shooting glasses and other gear by clicking the Accessories link.

A tremendous value in a walnut-stocked rifle that gets up to 1,000 fps!
 

if its anything like my dads, its actually a daisy.........and the trigger is garbage.

if you can get used to the trigger its a nice looking rifle, and its fairly accurate.

-Mark

I have a Win 1000X that I found (cheap) at a swap meet.  It was well used and it needs some cosmetic work
but it's a very strong shooter and I like the trigger (maybe it was worked on or just broken in?)

These guns are made in Turkey (by Hatsan I guess).  Mine appears well made.

There is a forum just for the Winchester rifles here:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/392756/

BobD

[longislandhunter]

I have Winchester 1000 and it's one of the hardest hitting .177 rifles I have. The trigger is a bear, but then I haven't done anything to it either. I originally bought the Daisy powerline synthetic stock .177 and was so impressed with the power I immediately bought the Winchester wood stock version,,, plus I really just liked the aesthetics of the wood

I haven't tuned mine or really done anything to em, and I'll admit they are "rough',,,, but I really like em and the power they have is incredible..... so is their accuracy

Jeff

[vinceb]

...and very powerful. My Daisy 1000X averages over 1020fps with 7.9gr Premiers.

But it's tough cocking, harsh shooting, and most have horrendous triggers (it's the luck of the draw on that). Worse, service parts are simply not available.

A far better deal, in my opinion, is this:

http://natchezss.com/category.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=GN&category=176&subCategory=176&catLevel=1&prodID=GN611005654

The old 440 has a nice wood stock, it uses the common Gamo powerplant parts that are still used in many of their breakbarrels, and it's overall a better made gun (even if it doesn't shoot as hard). Very little plastic on this one, BTW...

Another good deal for the money is the refurbished RWS48 directly from Umarex for $120 shipped, or even the refurbished Force 1000 or Hammerli Titan for $90 shipped.

[longislandhunter]

I have to agree with Vince,,,, that $99 deal on the GAMO 440 is a great buy...

Jeff

I've been watching for reviews on the Walther (Hatsan) .25 that is supposed to be coming out  soon. Wonder if that will be a possible source of parts for some of the  other Hatsans? Harsh or not, that is a good price for a .25 if it lives up to the specifications they list for it.

[vinceb]

I meant the '94 is $120 shipped, not the '48.

Sorry fer getting anyone's hopes up!

[vinceb]

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=94000605

BTW, Winchester does not make it.

my dads Winchester is the daisy 800x series something-or-another, not the 1000 ones you are probably talking about.

but that trigger really is bad, I am glad to see I wasn't imagining it.

does have a pretty good kick though. No accuracy problems so far either.

it does seem like it might be running out of steam though, I need to read up more on rebuilding this thing for him.

-Mark

My bud has one and it seems to be a fairly accurate rifle, but as I have read in here, I can confirm that it has a horrible trigger. I don't know if CDT makes a GRT trigger for it, but if he does I guess it would be fair for the price.

[CharlieDaTuna]

Sorry but the GRT-III will not work in it. I have a Brazilian Winnie 800 that has beautiful Walnut wood and a nice gun. I did lube tune it but didn't do much with the trigger. You need to be pretty careful with the trigger because if the geometry of it is changed just a little, the gun is either dangerous or junk.  You won't find parts for it.  

[dank]

Plenty to learn here from folks who own and like them;

http://www.network54.com/Forum/392756/

Russ Sauer has a couple of guides one on the 1000 gun and another for a trigger mod.
Both found here;

http://webpages.charter.net/guru1/documents/index.html

http://webpages.charter.net/guru1/documents/Daisy_1000S_trigger_Turkish.zip

http://webpages.charter.net/guru1/documents/Daisy_Winchester%20tear-down%20guide.zip