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Offline 1shotwander

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Re: Anyone Know What This Stuff Is??
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2009, 08:05:43 AM »
Yup that very well could be Mauser ammo... The 8mm kind... I know that my uncle has some and their about that long..... Hope you have a Mauser    :D
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RE: Anyone Know What This Stuff Is??
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2009, 04:45:13 AM »
read the top line of printing on the close up pictures of the rifle ammo, it's for a mauser rifle, last word of the top line says so....

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Thanks Mike,,
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2009, 05:43:19 AM »
Now,,,, if I only had a Mauser!!:p Tim.

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RE: Anyone Know What This Stuff Is??
« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2009, 11:28:28 AM »
Rifle ammo is 8mm mauser ammo aka K98. We sell it at the shop for about 12 dollars a box the same exact stuff you have in the picture. It will also work in the Yugo48 as well as some others. If you have a gun shop close buy maybe they will trade you something for it.
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Re: Anyone Know What This Stuff Is??
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2009, 11:59:59 PM »
here's alink to every one but yugoslavia. See if it looks the same
http://www.conjay.com/Ammunition%20for%20Armor%20Testing%20WW2%207.9mm%20Mauser.htm
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« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2009, 02:57:48 AM »
I have an old Spanish Mauser that sits and gathers dust, if you want one I can work something out...

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RE: Anyone Know What This Stuff Is??
« Reply #21 on: June 17, 2009, 08:24:28 AM »
Geez! What does the HEAD STAMP say? Should be something on the bottom of the rifle round. Cartridge guesstimation has ruined many a gun (not to mention shooter). Best bet is to take it to a gunshow and sell it to an ammo dealer. Then the ID is his problem, as well as shootability, etc. Only other way to be sure is an exact translation. Even then, if the boxes aren't sealed, you don't know if they are reloads. Inherited a bunch of ammo from my uncle and quite a bit were very, very old reloads stuffed back into the original boxes. Won't shoot those since I don't know the loads.

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« Reply #22 on: June 17, 2009, 08:57:30 AM »
Good ammunition..  the other is 9mm Marcrov  (I know I mispelled it)

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Does Not Look Like Re-Loads To Me,,,,
« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2009, 11:03:44 AM »
Looks to be factory loads in containers straight from the factory to me. The rear of the rifle cartriges are stamped: 11 on top,, 56 on bottom, with two small "stars" right & left. This may turn out to be some $$ for airgun "stuff" for me or,, workin out something with Mike for that Mauser he has!! 8) Tim.

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RE: Anyone Know What This Stuff Is??
« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2009, 11:37:38 AM »
That would be November 1956, same as on the boxes.  You need to get a positive ID on it before sticking it into a rifle.  Why not post it on a firearms forum?  I'm sure you will get some help there.  I always tell folks with surplus guns to get them headspaced, at least, before firing them.  Especially WWII Mausers.  Got to make sure bolts match for headspace.  Sometimes losing countries aren't too particular about cobbling together arms from battlefield parts.  At least your ammo looks fresh.  Didn't see that it was in a tin.  Like I said, might be worth some bucks at a show.

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RE: Does Not Look Like Re-Loads To Me,,,,
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2009, 12:47:27 PM »
Yugoslavian 8mm (7.92x57) ammo, standard FMJ ball 196 grain bullet. brass case and berdan primer. This is corrosive ammo. J&G sales list it at $5.50 a box 15 rounds.
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RE: Anyone Know What This Stuff Is??
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2009, 03:56:24 AM »
This may be a late post that never gets read regaarding what may possibly be 8mm mauser surplus ammo.   The use of this ammo should be approached with caution.

The rounds themselves can be measured with a micrometer to determine  the exact diameter of the actuall projectile itself.  I cannot remember the size and my manuals are packed up at this time.   You could contact Sierra bullets via the inter-net or call on the phone for the correct diameter of 8mm bullets.

The more difficult measurement is determining the bore diameter of rifles to be shot in.   The so-called 8mm mauser was produced with at 2 different diameters.  Firing or attempting to fire the larger diameter round in the smaller diameter bore  results in extreme pressures and many rifles have blown up as a result.  Any rifle chambered for this round should be taken to a qualified gun-smith for determination and given a clean bill of health.   This is especially true for rifles from Europe and all Milatary type rifles.  As RedFeather stated, millions of surplus rifles are cobbled together from parts.  Mainly battlefield pickups.  It is well known that many of these surplus rlfles chambers are so sloppy that similar but wrong ammo can be chambered and the bolt closed. Usually with poor results.   A cast of the chamber and bore is the best way to go.

Plus this looks to be Egyptian manufacture.  Consider this,   it may be machine gun ammo.  Much higher pressures.  And a lot of stuff I have seen from this part of the world is dodgy at best.

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Re: Anyone Know What This Stuff Is??
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2009, 06:53:47 AM »
I had thought about machine gun ammo such as you come across in 9mm but wasn't sure if Soviet Bloc MG's shot 8mm.  You can also borrow a kinetic bullet puller and break a round down, then measure the case and bullet.  Try matching to Cartridges of the World.  The two 8mm's are the original 8x57J and the later 8x57JS.  The first rifle is, basically, a .318 bore while the JS is .323.  You don't want to shoot JS in the older guns as it will raise chamber pressures.  (I think the throat is too narrow.)  8x57J is usually found in early Mausers.  Almost bought a pre-WWII J.P. Sauer sporter in that and it must have been from the 1920's or earlier.  WWII Mausers are in the .323.  Still a good idea to have everything checked out as recommended above.