Have decided to give up all forms of hunting dove with guns of any type as I have found a new system of getting all the dove I want with my new 1/4" gauge Window Extreme Hunter!! As you can see from the pictures of this dreaded device, this is not the first dove to fall to the accuracy of this fine weapon. I might add that the groups are a bit large at 24"-30" for three "shots" but it does not seem to lower the number of birds I bag using this method of hunting. By the way, I do have to run down the occasional "wounded critter" and use my backup weapon - my bare hand. Seriously, even with the light and the fan on, all kinds of birds smack into this window. Dove are the worst, but a few quail have come in at full speed and one day an owl almost took out the whole opening. Now if I can just get the jackrabbits and coyotes to run into my other new toy, the Hyper-Velocity 8' Sliding See-Thru Door Hunter Maximum, I will have a full quiver of alternative and fully legal to carry concealed hunting weapons. I have started a new effort with the NRA to protect our rights to own See-Thru windows and doors. Please send me $100 each to help keep this issue before our legislators who are voting on the "See-Thru Window & Door Ban" next week!