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NRA 1000
« on: October 29, 2006, 01:04:14 AM »
1.  I assume this rifle is an S1K.  Is that right?

2.  I've had it for about six months and have experienced all sorts of fine and pleasant frustrations, despite getting CharlieDaTuna's marvelous trigger.  As soon as I can find a box, it is going to Charlie because someone forgot to mention the First Rule of Springers:  Never fire a backwards pellet.

3.  In the meantime, I have discovered that the two-piece mounts that came with the rifle cant to the right because of the clamps and that the rear mount cants less than the front because I bottomed the recoil screw in the hole.  This also seems to have raised the rear mount so that I had to use way too much of the scope's elevation knob.  I have seen one-piece munts recommended on this forum.  Accushot?  But then I read about barrel droop.  Does this applie to an S1K?  Should the mount be adjustable?  Can someone tell me, please, the exact mount to get and where?

4.  If Gene is a baby and catching up, I am running as hard as I can just to get sight of his dust.

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RE: NRA 1000
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2006, 01:44:58 AM »
Hey, Ashley,

Welcome to our little nut house!  And by the way, despite Gene's protestations to the contrary, he's got way too many air guns to be a baby anymore!  But I digress.

1.  Yes, the NRA 1000 is just a special edition of the S1K.

2. Backwards pellet!?  Other than possibly getting jammed, it shouldn't do any actual damage.  In fact, I just recently read a post about someone intentionally shooting Beeman Crow Magnum pellets backwards.  Supposed to increase the expansion, I guess.  Regardless, if the pellet is stuck in the barrel, just use a cleaning rod or something similar to tap it back out.

3.  Most of the mounts out there have a reversable clamp jaw, so they will work on both 11 mm and 3/8" dovetails.  Could that be the case with yours?  And no, you definitely don't want to force the rear mount up with the recoil stop pin.  That said, I'm becoming more and more convinced that ALL air guns can benefit from adjustable mounts.  I remounted my Leapers scope on my CFX, using Accushot 1 pc. high mount.  I optically centered the scope first, and it took more than 2 1/2 full TURNS of the elevation knob, not clicks,  to get it on target.  I also mounted a scope on my RWS 350 using a Beeman adjustable mount.  Again starting out with the scope optically centered, I was on target in about 5 clicks of W/E.  Everyone talks about the RWS rifles being droopers, but from what I'm seeing, it looks like all springers have it.  Safe to say I'm sold on the Beeman adjustables, although I may have to go with B-Square for my CFX and Leapers scope.  No 30 mm high adj. available from Beeman.  Accushot are good mounts, but not adjustable.  BKL's look rock solid, but they have limitations.  Look at the Product Reviews, Gene and I both did reviews on the BKL mounts.  

4.  I already covered above :-).  But I will add that if you decide to send your rifle to Bob (CDT) you won't regret.  You won't recognize it when it gets back, but you won't regret it.  It may look the same, but it sure won't feel the same.  Hope this is some help, and good luck.

Dave

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RE: NRA 1000
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2006, 02:01:13 AM »




Your S1k had a scope stop hole?

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Re: NRA 1000
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2006, 02:25:57 AM »
LOL Ashley

Love the canter... As Dave said you should be able to get that pellet out. I never use anything metal in my barrels. Only wooden dowels. You should be able to find a wooden dowel at your local hardware store that will fit the bore. Just insert the dowel at muzzle end of barrel and take a mallot or small hammer and tap the end of dowell. Oh Make sure you do not leave but a couple inches exposed on muzzle end of barrel. You may have to cut some of the dowell off.

Oh and don't listen to anything Dave says about me... he he he

Good luck
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RE: NRA 1000
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2006, 03:18:22 AM »
I think so.  There is one small hole at the extreme rear of the scope rail, and there are four larger holes evenly spaced toward the muzzle.  The stop screw fits into each of the four larger holes with a little play.

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Re: NRA 1000
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2006, 03:24:05 AM »
Oh, the pellet came out okay.  I was tired and a little cranky and shot it out.  Unfortunately, the spring did not care for that form of pellet-removal operation and apparently broke itself in a fit or resentment.  At any rate, the power promptly and emphatically dropped for the next couple of shots, and CDT wrote in an e-mail  that the spring probably was broken.

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RE: NRA 1000
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2006, 03:29:52 AM »
Thanks for the information.  I assume the S1K has an 11 mm scope rail.  That right?

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RE: NRA 1000
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2006, 03:57:23 AM »




You have a scope RAIL, not grooves milled into the receiver?



If you do, go and read what it says on the side of the breech, right where the pivot point is.



What does it say?



If it says "Shadow Supreme", and your shooting .177's, this could explain the broken spring

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RE: NRA 1000
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2006, 05:35:50 AM »
On the left side in front of the pivot it says:
NRA 1000 Special
Cal. 4.5 (.177) [pellet symbol] GAMO
NRA--xxxx12
Made in Spain

There is a dovetail rail affixed somehow (no screws visible) to the top rear of the spring tube.  The four holes that I assume are for the scope stop appear to be pressed into the rail.  The rearmost, small hole appears to go all the way through the rail so you can see the spring tube through it.

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RE: NRA 1000
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2006, 07:17:14 AM »




I didn't know the NRA special had a rail



The normal S1k doesn't, it has milled in grooves

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Re: NRA 1000
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2006, 07:43:54 AM »
My Black Shadow Superem .22 has the same thing as Ashley's does. Some of the higher end 1000' are like the CFX's with dove tail mount screwed to the top of barrel. I think if Ashley looks real close she will see screws on the sides of the mount which afix the mount.

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Replacement spring...
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2006, 12:49:48 PM »
Thought I'd mention this, just in case you hadn't seen this before.

Gamo doesn't sell replacement springs, but you can use the spring that Crosman sells as a replacement part for the Quest. It also happens to be a little smaller in diameter than the Gamo spring, and thus it tends to "twang" less. The only catch is that you also have to use the Crosman Quest top hat.

The part numbers are C1K-005 and C1K-010. Cost should about $12, shipping included. Their phone # is 800-724-7486.

This spring is very close to the Gamo spring in overall spring rate (perhaps a little higher), but it has more coils and therefore needs to have a little less spacing. If you use the standard Gamo top hat, the gun probably won't cock.

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RE: Replacement spring...
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2006, 02:26:25 PM »
In fact the Crossman spring is a little more powerfull than the gamo spring.