Thanks for the comps fellas. Although I'm no big fan of cold weather, it will be nice to see the leaves fall and really open things up. As soon as I get the twinns ready ( 0035's) we'll take them out for some sportier hunting. As mid powered rifles, accuracy and shot placement will be of the utmost importance!!! But inside 25 yards they'll still take game!!! I've decided to change things up on my first 0035, and have been getting very nice groups using the Beeman Cromags. The Beeman SB's are great for paper,....and game, but seem to be a tad light for her. The Cro's keep the gun shooting with a more distinct 'pop', and less twang on the Patriot spring Bob installed, and I don't feel much velocity loss if at all. Seems like there's too much power in that spring for the SB's. The 0035 from Wes, has about 300 pels through her since I got it, and the barrel is getting seasonned to my taste. Used crossman pointed hunters for the break-in,... would have prefered wads to get a more even leading through the barrel (JMO), but wal-mart was out of stock. Next for her, a decent scope. For low-end rifles, these two are very accurate,........and fun to shoot!!!!! tjk