Be careful. I was going for one of the new webly's, myself; and the good people here let me know that the new turkish webly's are crap compared to the uk made rifles. I want one too, but I'm going to hold off, either until hatsan get it's crap together, or I find and older uk model. Actually, I think I'm going to wait for a used uk model to come my way. I mean, we want these guns because of what they are, rather than what they're called, right?