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Offline GoodOlRWS45

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Vulcanizing?
« on: November 28, 2008, 04:29:24 AM »
I was visiting my uncle last night and he was telling me that one way to get more power from our springers was by having my rifle "vulcanized".  Does anybody know what he's talking about?  Is that a way to strengthen the seals in the compression chamber or something?  He didn't know how the process worked, but that one of his rifles had been "vulcanized" from the factory.  Does this sound..."Logical"?  

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Re: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2008, 09:27:57 AM »
Never heard of that John. You sure your Uncle has not been watching to much of StarTrek. Vulcan sounds like Spock...:) Just kidding...:) Maybe one or more of the more experienced members has heard of it..
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RE: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2008, 09:31:37 AM »
I have no idea what he may be referring to. The only vulcanizing the I can relate to is rubber. Where that fits in a gun is beyond me however I am up to learning something new.

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RE: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2008, 11:24:31 AM »
Yes I'm wondering that also since I thought that was a process used to make rubber hold a shape or form. Ed
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Re: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2008, 11:34:38 AM »
In tire repair it's a process that melts the patch on a tube it's been a long time since I've seen someone use a vulcanize tube repair , about 1956 when I use to work in a gas station part time , piece be with you  mr spock. ha ha howie
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Re: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2008, 11:44:01 AM »
Here is what Wikipidia Says:

Vulcanization (or Vulcanisation) refers to a specific curing process of rubber involving high heat and the addition of sulfur or other equivalent curatives. It is a chemical process in which polymer molecules are linked to other polymer molecules by atomic bridges composed of sulfur atoms or carbon to carbon bonds. The end result is that the springy rubber molecules become cross-linked to a greater or lesser extent. This makes the bulk material harder, much more durable and also more resistant to chemical attack. It also makes the surface of the material smoother and prevents it from sticking to metal or plastic chemical catalysts.

This heavily cross-linked polymer has strong covalent bonds, with strong forces between the chains, and is therefore an insoluble and infusible, thermosetting polymer.

The process is named after Vulcan, Roman god of fire.

A vast array of products are made with vulcanized rubber including ice hockey pucks, tires, shoe soles, hoses and many more.

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Re: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2008, 12:06:48 PM »
I called my uncle and he swears that this was an option offered by RWS.  I'm confused.  Even if they were "vulcanizing" something, what would it be?
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Re: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2008, 12:35:44 PM »
I remember Gaylord in one of his blogs saying something about years ago you could buy tuned springers from the factory but at that time they did not call them tuned but they had another name for the special prep package . I looked for the blog but I can not find it . It seems like it was one or more of the higher end manufactures at the time . RWS , Beeman ,or HW, . Marvin

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RE: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2008, 12:59:05 PM »
There are 2 types of vulcanizing that I have heard of.

1) When Spock grabs your shoulder, and the other

2) when a patch or plug (One of the good ones) is adhered to a tire.

Could there be a 3rd referring to springers? I don't know

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RE: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2008, 01:02:05 PM »
I remember during and after WW2 retreaded tires were popular because new tires were hard to come by. The process they used to attach the new tread to the old carcass was referred to as vulcanizing. Don't know how that would apply to AR seals unless it's like heat treating steel for longer wear. (yes I'm that old!).
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Re: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2008, 04:53:38 PM »
Vaulcanising may be a term used "slang" that has no relation to rubber vulcanizing.
There is a process of cemical heat glueing of low friction/ware reduceing thick paste to steel
that is called vulcanizing. used in tool makeing to stop ware on deep draw forming tools.
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Re: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2008, 03:06:33 PM »
Hot damn! Sounds like Brownell's spray on/bake on teflon/moly gun finish.  I'm actually thinking about using that on/in the receiver of my B5-10 Chi com pumper, to replace that cruddy black paint it currently has, and to preclude any need for lubrication on the hammer.
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Re: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2008, 03:21:05 PM »
hmmmm...maybe they mean something else to use instead of glass bedding?(rubber instead?)
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Re: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2008, 02:47:11 AM »
I'm sure I don't know.   Maybe whatever process it was is now obsolete.  I'm sure that between all the members on these forums, every way to extract power from these springers has been explored.
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Re: Vulcanizing?
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2008, 08:00:58 AM »
Maybe he meant VENOMIZED?