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Offline JOHNNY QUEST

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Ok guys I got round balls
« on: December 06, 2008, 09:19:58 AM »
Comming from pyramid air.. .22 cal.  bb type shots that have been back ordered for a long time..  I have read a bunch of reviews on them and thought they woud be great to try out..  I ordered them a while back and just got conformation that they have been shipped...  I hope they have the stopping power that i have read about...
 Anyone of you folks used them...  ?????
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 RWS 48 .20...
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 Mountian Air custom .25 pcp pistol... TKO break
 Crosman 2400 18\" .22 pistol TKO break...
 Webley Tempest .22 pitol...
 Crosman 2240 .22 pistol...
 Gamo whisper .22 Wooden stock...
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Offline gamo2hammerli

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Re: Ok guys I got round balls
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2008, 09:59:35 AM »
The only round balls I've used are real .177 copper or steel bb's....which are not recommended for pellet guns since they would ruin the rifling inside the barrel.  It would be great to see your results when you start using them.   Keep us posted.  Wonder if there's any advantage between the round balls and regular pellets?
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Offline Gene_SC

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Re: Ok guys I got round balls
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2008, 11:28:36 AM »
Ya Marvin, I hope those round balls are lead, because Stanley is 100% correct. Say good by to your barrel. Once you shoot one it will start the damage process of ruining your lands in the barrel. Remember that air rifle barrels are not the same as powder burner barrels, they are softer and more delecate. Please do not use them in your new AA 410 or at least do not tell me you did..:( :( :(
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Offline JOHNNY QUEST

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RE: Ok guys I got round balls
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2008, 11:31:31 AM »
they are lead rounds...  not coated either.. I knew about the copper coated ones so I ordered pure lead ones to see what they would do.   They have been back ordered for 2 months and I just got the email that they are on the way.... I will report on the shootin soon....
http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/pellet.pl?pellet_id=610
A MEMBER OF THE \"OTHER\" DARK SIDE...... NV
 The addiction:
 BSA Lonestar .22 ATN Nightvision scope TKO break.
 BSA Scorpion .177 T-10 Tactical Bullbarrel Syn. stock.. TKO break
 Air Arms S400FAC .22 Custom Camo\'d stock.. By  Shadow..extra walnut stock...
 Air Arms TX200 .22 Walnut stock...
 B-20 .177 Custom camo\'d by Shadow...
 B-20 .20 ...
 B-20 .22 Custom camo\'d by Shadow...
 RWS 48 .20...
 rws 36 .20...
 Mountian Air custom .25 pcp pistol... TKO break
 Crosman 2400 18\" .22 pistol TKO break...
 Webley Tempest .22 pitol...
 Crosman 2240 .22 pistol...
 Gamo whisper .22 Wooden stock...
 Gamo CFX royal .22
 Fast deer .177 custom stock...
 Beeman GT600 .177...
 Benjamin Sheridan C-9 Blue Streak . 20 1968 model...
 Benjamin sheridan c-9 silver streak . 20
 
 


Offline Gene_SC

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Re: Ok guys I got round balls
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2008, 11:43:36 AM »
Your the man Marvin...:)
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Offline Crzyfrlss1

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Re: Ok guys I got round balls
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2008, 12:36:09 PM »
I got some coming too.

Got notice of the shipment yesterday, should be here 12/9/08.

Can't wait to try them out, it's been a long wait.




I just hope I'll get some good results with them.
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Offline JOHNNY QUEST

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Re: Ok guys I got round balls
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2008, 12:40:15 PM »
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Crzyfrlss1 - 12/6/2008  7:36 PM

I got some coming too.

Got notice of the shipment yesterday, should be here 12/9/08.

Can't wait to try them out, it's been a long wait.




I just hope I'll get some good results with them.


It sure has been.. I ordered months ago after reading a review on penatration..   mine are sceduled for the 10th..
 lets check em out and report....
A MEMBER OF THE \"OTHER\" DARK SIDE...... NV
 The addiction:
 BSA Lonestar .22 ATN Nightvision scope TKO break.
 BSA Scorpion .177 T-10 Tactical Bullbarrel Syn. stock.. TKO break
 Air Arms S400FAC .22 Custom Camo\'d stock.. By  Shadow..extra walnut stock...
 Air Arms TX200 .22 Walnut stock...
 B-20 .177 Custom camo\'d by Shadow...
 B-20 .20 ...
 B-20 .22 Custom camo\'d by Shadow...
 RWS 48 .20...
 rws 36 .20...
 Mountian Air custom .25 pcp pistol... TKO break
 Crosman 2400 18\" .22 pistol TKO break...
 Webley Tempest .22 pitol...
 Crosman 2240 .22 pistol...
 Gamo whisper .22 Wooden stock...
 Gamo CFX royal .22
 Fast deer .177 custom stock...
 Beeman GT600 .177...
 Benjamin Sheridan C-9 Blue Streak . 20 1968 model...
 Benjamin sheridan c-9 silver streak . 20
 
 


Offline shadow

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Re: Ok guys I got round balls
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2008, 01:04:41 PM »
Hmmm hope the barrel and accuracy doesn't go south with em, watching from the stand's on this one. Good luck and let us know how they perform.:) Ed
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Re: Ok guys I got round balls
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2008, 01:08:00 PM »
I hope they work out well for you.  Over the past few months I read some reports from guys using .25cal lead balls (Hornady I think) in their Condors and Talons and they were so & so.  One guy reported the ball bounced off a squirrel's head!  He was shooting up at an angle and the ball supposedly struck its head at a steep angle.  Others reported average accuracy or not up to par with Kodiaks or other skirted pellets beyond 40yds.
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RE: Ok guys I got round balls
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2008, 01:22:39 PM »
Disclaimer... I am not an expert.

However I do know a thing or two about pellets. I would find it hard to believe that the round ball would out perform  good pellets with a high ballistic coefficient such as Crosman Premiers or another similar shaped pellet. I've used round balls in 177 and found them to be terrible at ranges past 20 yards and any kind of wind. Because they are not very 'slick' through the air they are more likely to be affected by it. Meaning they will slow down quicker and will also be driven off course easier.

The higher the ballistics of a pellet the more energy it will carry to the target and therefore the more likely it will do its job when it gets there. I'll give it to you the fact that when it does hit it will probably go 'splat' better than some other pellets, but that splat might not be enough at longer ranges because of the loss of energy from air resistance.

Find which ones shoot the best through your gun and stick with them because it is the accuracy of the shot that counts.

My 2 cents.

Offline JOHNNY QUEST

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RE: Ok guys I got round balls
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2008, 01:56:18 PM »
Ed , Harry ,AND RON MY BROTHER...  They are lead balls.. I do understand the balistic coifieciants of the pointed and domed pellets...   some guns shoot round nose as well as pointed and sometimes better..  Now Take a round ball of lead in .22 cal and run it throught the barrel.. I can see no reason it would do anything different to the barrel than any other pelet would.   I have read many reviews that said that the killin power is more with the balls .. thats why I posted it here ... I shoot to hunt..  Now we shall see what happens at 30 yards.. I make very few shots past that distance...   SPLATTTTTT is what I'm lookin for...   WE shall see ...
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 The addiction:
 BSA Lonestar .22 ATN Nightvision scope TKO break.
 BSA Scorpion .177 T-10 Tactical Bullbarrel Syn. stock.. TKO break
 Air Arms S400FAC .22 Custom Camo\'d stock.. By  Shadow..extra walnut stock...
 Air Arms TX200 .22 Walnut stock...
 B-20 .177 Custom camo\'d by Shadow...
 B-20 .20 ...
 B-20 .22 Custom camo\'d by Shadow...
 RWS 48 .20...
 rws 36 .20...
 Mountian Air custom .25 pcp pistol... TKO break
 Crosman 2400 18\" .22 pistol TKO break...
 Webley Tempest .22 pitol...
 Crosman 2240 .22 pistol...
 Gamo whisper .22 Wooden stock...
 Gamo CFX royal .22
 Fast deer .177 custom stock...
 Beeman GT600 .177...
 Benjamin Sheridan C-9 Blue Streak . 20 1968 model...
 Benjamin sheridan c-9 silver streak . 20
 
 


Offline VINNY

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Re: Ok guys I got round balls
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2008, 02:18:58 PM »
There is a good article on Pyramids site comparering round ball to pellet, w/ penetration test pics and the works. Pretty cool to read.
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Re: Ok guys I got round balls
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2008, 03:36:32 PM »


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JOHNNY QUEST - 12/6/2008  8:40 PM  
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Crzyfrlss1 - 12/6/2008  7:36 PM  I got some coming too.  Got notice of the shipment yesterday, should be here 12/9/08.   Can't wait to try them out, it's been a long wait.     I just hope I'll get some good results with them.
 It sure has been.. I ordered months ago after reading a review on penatration..   mine are sceduled for the 10th..  lets check em out and report....







Will do.



I believe I have a good variety of guns to test with as well as you do.



I have a feeling they'll do best out my higher powered guns, like my Disco and chinese Beeman SS1000.



But we'll see how they do in the lower powered AS2250 and modded 2240 as well.







I hope got enough of em' to make a good judgement with...LOL

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ROUND BALLS BBs / Sphere's at speed
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2008, 04:35:07 PM »
The prob with BBs is trying to hit anything at any distance.
A spinning sphere traviling at speed though air / water genarates
a pos pressure on one side and a neg pressure on the oppisite side.
With makes it keep moveing in to the neg pressure zone "Turnning in flight".
Hop up bb guns use this efect to make the bb rise for extra distance.
A tennis player puts a top spin on the ball to make it drop /A base ball pitcher
uses this efect to turn the ball in flight. etc etc etc.

PS....its called the "MAGNUS EFECT"
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Offline Crzyfrlss1

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Re: Ok guys I got round balls
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2008, 10:36:09 PM »
Well my order came a day early....yesterday.

They look nice, and no damage to tins.
As if you could ruin an RB anyway right?

Might not get any testing done until this coming weekend though.

Might have to stock up on Co2 for some indoor winter shooting, I hate shooting in the cold.
.22 Discovery 4x16x40 Centerpoint
.22 Beeman SS1000 4x16x56 Centerpoint
.22 2250XT 6x32 Centerpoint
.22 Custom 2240 Tasco Red-Dot w/bling

And various other pistols too