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Offline JWC

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RE: Serious Hunting Question
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2008, 12:11:42 AM »
I think a combination of both is a good approach.  I like the math and ballistics side; learning the theory doesn't hurt, and can give you a leg up when it's time to put theory into practice.  But there's no substitute for actually shooting and practicing.

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RE: Serious Hunting Question
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2008, 12:16:51 AM »
And THAT is the point about the math...you put it into practice in the field.....deady combo for the serious shooters.. :D

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RE: Serious Hunting Question
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2008, 12:54:21 AM »
Well,,, I don't think you need a calculator to be considered a serious shooter, but I will go along with the "combination" approach,,,, sounds logical and no doubt beneficial....    :emoticon:

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RE: Serious Hunting Question
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2008, 01:20:55 AM »
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longislandhunter - 12/22/2008  5:54 AM

Well,,, I don't think you need a calculator to be considered a serious shooter, but I will go along with the "combination" approach,,,, sounds logical and no doubt beneficial....    :emoticon:

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So you do your trajectory charts/range cards in your cabezza..???  :D

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RE: Serious Hunting Question
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2008, 01:32:08 AM »
No Richard, I do not do any trajectory charts in my head (actually it's CABEZA).  I have just practiced enough with my rifles to be able to hit the target while hunting at various ranges taking into account hold over or hold under.  For some reason it appears to me that you feel as though I'm attacking your method of shooting and that is not the case.  I think it's great that you enjoy the sport so much and I think it's great that you take the time to "do the math", document the results and put them into practice during your shooting sessions.  I don't get involved in that procedure but that is out of personal choice.  Apparently you feel very passionate about this issue.  I have not attacked you in any of my remarks and I'm sorry you feel the need to make off hand remarks to me.  I will leave the post by saying I wish you well, shoot safe and shoot straight.

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RE: Serious Hunting Question
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2008, 02:02:09 AM »
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longislandhunter - 12/22/2008  6:32 AM

No Richard, I do not do any trajectory charts in my head (actually it's CABEZA).  I have just practiced enough with my rifles to be able to hit the target while hunting at various ranges taking into account hold over or hold under.  For some reason it appears to me that you feel as though I'm attacking your method of shooting and that is not the case.  I think it's great that you enjoy the sport so much and I think it's great that you take the time to "do the math", document the results and put them into practice during your shooting sessions.  I don't get involved in that procedure but that is out of personal choice.  Apparently you feel very passionate about this issue.  I have not attacked you in any of my remarks and I'm sorry you feel the need to make off hand remarks to me.  I will leave the post by saying I wish you well, shoot safe and shoot straight.

Jeff


I apologize if you thought I was attacking you...not at all....bad joke on my part I guess...?? And I did not take your remarks as attacking my methods...even the comment about the calculator...

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RE: Serious Hunting Question
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2008, 02:09:48 AM »
Not a problem Richard,,,, I also apologize for taking your remarks the wrong way.  

Talk to you soon  :)

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RE: Serious Hunting Question
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2008, 04:07:19 AM »
I'll stick with my Zen mode :) but I do understand all thing's mentioned. As I was growing up I was drilled by one of the best, my father who is a NamVet was also a trained sniper WHO DRILLED INTO MY HEAD! hehe the physic's of shooting but as he said none of that matter's if your not one with your shooter. He was a mystic type guy too :o  :) Honestly though I don't do any calculating, pellet weighing etc. I sort through my pellet's for bugger's and I keep my shooters and scopes dialed in and ready. When I know that my shooter's are dead on the rest depends on me and since all that I do is hunt with them I spend countless hour's studying animal behavior along with Ma Natures behavior. A hunt moment in my head, I've inspected and loaded the pellet like this is the only one that I have so I must make it count. The pray has been spotted but I've set myself up not to be spotted, most of the time. :o  :) I let the pray go about it's duties anticipating it's next move, it stop's. The crosshairs have been locked , not only am I watching the pray but I'm looking past it for anything or anyone that may be in harms way. The leaves and branch's get a quick glance for wind direction and possible pellet deflection. At this point when all is perfect I slip into the Hunt Zen mode hehe and it's almost like a second of tunnel vision. The animals body doesn't exist, nothing else just that one little spot between the ear and eye. The pellet already knows where it need's to be, just send it on that invisible wire to the target. Breathing rested and relaxed and just squeeze the trigger, it's all been played out in my mind now just watch it unfold through the scope. This all happen's in seconds and work's for me and I'm not telling anyone to run out and get some meditation bead's hehe but I think we've all had that shot that just felt so smooth and fluid from start to finish and you knew right when you squeezed the trigger that the pellet was going to be dead on. :) We've heard that term over and over " Be the shooter" and I just take it alittle further, be the target or animal, be the leaf on the tree heck be the tree lol. Now get your meditation mat's out and spend some time with your shooter's one on one hehehe. Just my Zen's worth nothing more. :) Ed
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RE: Serious Hunting Question
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2008, 06:54:06 AM »
Well as usual I have been instructed by the masters..  This place is great...
 My father was an army sniper also..  He won the Marksmanship trophy in 1952 at CAMP PERRY..
 With that win he was awarded a first year first run Ruger 357 mag pistol which i have today and it has a 4 digit s#.
  He showed me and ronbeaux the fine art of loading bullits and the balistic tables.
 He has long been gone but we still enjoy the shooting he introduced us to..
  I thank you guys for the links to the different web sites.. I found 1 very helpfull in figuring out my answer.
 The visual of how the gun shoots at different angles confirmed my suspisions on what it was doing..

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Re: Serious Hunting Question
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2008, 05:19:56 AM »
I had that question a few months ago after I missed a crow on a upward shot....about 3 stories up a tree.  Aimed at the body and the pellet most likely flew over it.  Live and learn.....  Also....aiming downwards is the same....have to aim lower than the normal point of aim.
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RE: Serious Hunting Question
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2008, 06:30:51 AM »
Randall,,,who are ya kidding,,, :o   We all know the truth about the QUEST OF JOHNNY to become a shooter was tought to you by MRS QUEST :p  :p    The good news is that we still luv ya!!!!!!! :)   Even if MRS. QUEST IS THE REAL SHOOTER!!!!!!! :D

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RE: Serious Hunting Question
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2008, 11:28:55 AM »
Breath grasshopper. It's all in the breathing. Inhale, let half out, hold it no more than 6 seconds, shoot. Or start all over.