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just ordered a Shadow Sport
« on: December 05, 2006, 02:23:33 PM »
I am new here and I have a question. What is a good cleaning kit for an air rifle? I have a Kleen Bore cleaning kit for my 9mm but would like to get opinions for the air rifle. Also, is anyone in or around Frederick, Md.?
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RE: just ordered a Shadow Sport
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2006, 05:02:04 PM »
Hi Athlon and welcome to the forum.

For a cleaning "kit" I use a long piece of weed wacker string....the kind used in week cutters.  I melt one end of it so that it makes a small ball on the end....it has to be smaller than the bore of your rifle.  After it cools and hardens I thread a small patch on the string (the ball will keep it from falling off the end) and thread the string through the barrel and pull it through.  What ever you do DON'T use a wire brush...the barrels really don't get that dirty (only lead pellets going through it...no gunpowder).

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Re: just ordered a Shadow Sport
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2006, 05:55:24 PM »
Ive cleaned my barrel only once or twice when I first got it. Its only lead so It never gets dirty.

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Re: just ordered a Shadow Sport
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2006, 10:57:35 PM »


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eighty8fierogt - 12/6/2006 1:55 AM Ive cleaned my barrel only once or twice when I first got it. Its only lead so It never gets dirty.



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It might group better if you do.



Try it and see.



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RE: just ordered a Shadow Sport
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2006, 03:58:31 AM »
Hey, Athlon, welcome aboard.  Any relation there to the AMD Athlon :-)?  Here's a link for you and the rest of the guys getting new guns.  I'll admit, I haven't done this to my guns (YET!), mostly because of no local source for the JB compound.  http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2005/11/is-your-airgun-barrel-really-clean.html
BB is basically describing lapping the barrel.  And as long as your rifle has a steel barrel, a brass brush isn't going to hurt it.  So check it out, and let me know what you think.

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RE: just ordered a Shadow Sport
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2006, 05:50:44 AM »
Sorry Dave but I have to disagree with you.   :0

It's not a good practice to use, and in my opinion, never use, any metal brush including brass in the barrel as the rifling is so fine and the metal used in barrels in airgun's is not like the metal of powder burners. The metal in most guns (with the exception of higher end guns) are very soft metal by comparison. Brass is definitely not to be used. Many good barrels (the rifling) have been ruined doing so even one time. I have looked down the barrels of an awful lot of guns, hundreds of them, and often times it's pretty evident that metal bore brushes have been used. Also with pellet examination. But the damage has already been done and there is nothing I can do for them.

Quite often, once any metal brush has been used on a barrel, the gun and it's accuracy will never be the same. Almost never will cleaning the barrel improve accuracy or groups unless it is really bad. It's one of the reason that many of the guys after purchasing a new gun have made the comment "The more I shoot it the more accurate it gets".

 If you do  feel that you need to use a bore brush, it should be made of Nylon bristles and be sure that the twisted wire tip of the brush does not have sharp edges. If it does, remove any extended edges and put a drop of good glue on the tip to cover it and let it dry thoroughly to cover the metal. Then you can apply GooGone to the brush to clean it. After brushing it, use patches and a pull through line to finish, pulling through as many patches as needed. :o

A lot of the guys out there complain about their accuracy and that it changes and at the same time create their own problem. Most airgun's barrels seldom need to be cleaned until they have had several thousand shots through them and even then do not necessarily need bore brushed. The exception to this might be in some cases where people lube their pellets. Barrels need to be cleaned only when the velocity has decreased enough to impact the accuracy. The little lead and deposits that is in the barrel acts as both a lubricant as well as  sealing surface properties for the pellet. In most cases, cleaning (especially excessive cleaning) of the barrel will both decrease the velocity as well as the accuracy. It can take anywhere from 100 shots to several hundred shots for the barrel to "break" itself in again. I have a number of guns that the barrels were cleaned when new and never been bore brush cleaned since and when I do clean my barrels, I usually do no more than run a dry patch or two through them. That's all they need. And when I thoroughly clean them I use no more than patches and GooGone.:D

When I send guns back to my customers, every one of them get a cleaning and lubing guide with special attention toward barrel cleaning.

Just my pennies worth.

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RE: just ordered a Shadow Sport
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2006, 06:52:49 AM »
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Hey, Athlon, welcome aboard.  Any relation there to the AMD Athlon :-)?  Here's a link for you and the rest of the guys getting new guns.  I'll admit, I haven't done this to my guns (YET!), mostly because of no local source for the JB compound.  http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2005/11/is-your-airgun-barrel-really-clean.html
BB is basically describing lapping the barrel.  And as long as your rifle has a steel barrel, a brass brush isn't going to hurt it.  So check it out, and let me know what you think.

Dave


Yes it is the AMD Athlon  (c:    I am an avid fps gamer and the Athlon is the only way to go for gaming. I was looking at the Gamo cleaning kit and it comes with a nylon brush. I think I may be picking one of those up. I ordered 4 different types of pellets from pyramydair.  I ordered Pro Magnums, Tomahawks, Superdomes, and Exacts. Going to see which ones will work best for me. Just have to find a place around here to shoot besides a range which is only open on weekends.
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Re: just ordered a Shadow Sport
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2006, 07:21:44 AM »
Totally agree;;  I have machined both high end barrels 'Walther" and  stock barrels from Gamo's, Quests and others, There is no comparison the the metals.

Gamo and the others are quite soft but the high end barrels are tough as nails and very difficult to machine

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Re: just ordered a Shadow Sport
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2006, 09:51:18 AM »
Now for my 2 Cents... hehe .. I agree that cleaning a barrel is really not necessary until after several thousand shots. And even then when you clean it using a pull through like Mark mentioned. Would not over clean it. What happens when you over clean a pellet rifle barrel is you are removing the lead build up that is in the rifling. I say this because you see it all the time in other forums and here that with a new pellet rifle or gun you need to put a thousand or so pellets through it before your accuracy settles down. It is because lead builds up n them grooves and makes for a good seal for the pellet.

In my short time of shooting springesr "1 year" I have not cleaned the barrels but once. And then I noticed that the accuracy was not the same. Could not figuer dat out until some smart ol guy told me not over clean a barrel.... hehe

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RE: just ordered a Shadow Sport
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2006, 02:15:02 PM »
I went and picked it up just a little while ago and I'm really impressed with the way it is made. Now I can't wait till this weekend to go and try it out  (c:
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Re: just ordered a Shadow Sport
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2006, 03:08:30 PM »
Now snap up one of charlies triggers and really fall inlove with it.

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RE: just ordered a Shadow Sport
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2006, 12:45:30 PM »
Hoping to send for one of the triggers next week sometime. (c:
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