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Offline melloroadman

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TALON 24 INCH BARREL 2500 FILL
« on: January 10, 2009, 08:37:37 AM »
CPH 10.5 , .177 pellets , 2500 psi fill .Two 25 shot strings , one 10 shot string , 60 shots total 1 fill . P.W. on low . 16 yard target .
String 1 - 1037 , 1031 , 1040 , 1034 , 1037 , 1020 , 1029 , 1021 , 1017 , 1032 , 1026 , 1030 , 1022 , 1021 , 1017 , 1024 , 1020 , 1017 , 1007 , 1011 , 1013 , 1006 , 1005 , 1003 , 998 , average 1021 fps
String 2 - 997 , 1000 , 995 , 988 , 986 , 991 , 987 , 981 , 979 , 980 , 980 , 973 , 975 , 968 , 966 , 962 , 964 , 960 , 956 , 952 , 952 , 951 , 948 , 941 , 942 , average 971 fps
String 3 - 941 , 940 , 939 , 936 , 934 , 927 , 928 , 922 , 922 , 920 , average 931 fps
Average of first 50 shots 996 fps , average of all 60 shots 985 fps . Deviation at 10 percent for total shot count .Marvin

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RE: TALON 24 INCH BARREL 2500 FILL
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2009, 09:14:58 AM »
Marvin:

Is it the barrel length of the Talon that makes it more efficient than the short barrel BSA Carbine?

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RE: TALON 24 INCH BARREL 2500 FILL
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2009, 10:06:34 AM »
Tommy when I looked up the barrel length of your rifle I believe it is 18.5 inches . The talon ss has a 12 inch barrel and they say it will so 1000 fps . The talon has a 18 inch barrel and they list it at 1100 fps . Both of these figures are in .177 caliber . So I think we could safely say that the 24 inch barrel would yield  another 100 fps and I believe those are figures I have seen some where . That would put it that much over the BSA in that area . The rest would have to do with valving . Marvin

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Re: TALON 24 INCH BARREL 2500 FILL
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2009, 01:55:26 PM »
PCP rifles, and to some extent CO2 rifles do get increased efficiency from longer barrels. Where a springer is pretty much done using all the available shot charge in 10-12" of barrel, most gas guns will show increased velocity with longer barrels. Marvin is also very correct in stating that valving has a big influence on efficiency.
The current stable, (arsenal, quiver?): BSA Lightning XL .177, BSA Sportsman HV .22, BSA Ultra .177, CZ634 .177, Daystate Harrier X .177, TAU 200 Senior .177, HW 97 .177, HW 50s .177, HW 30 .177, RWS 92 .177, Gamo 126 MC Super, Gamo Big Cat .177, AR2078A, QB78 .177, Quest 1000 .177, Beeman SS650 .177., Beeman P17 .177.
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RE: TALON 24 INCH BARREL 2500 FILL
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2009, 04:47:10 AM »
How loud is the report with the 24inch barrel?
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RE: TALON 24 INCH BARREL 2500 FILL
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2009, 05:21:41 AM »
Matt it is a little louder than the discovery at this point . It is wasting air and I am still bringing it down as far as psi fill goes . You have to remember the more air you push the louder the noise . This is my condor with the striker weight removed and a talon tank . The rifle was pretty quite with the striker weight removed and the condor tank filled to 1300 psi . It had good performance and low fill rate not wasting a lot of air .If it was shrouded at that point is would be whisper quite I think . Jeff , Long Island Hunter has a shrouded condor in .22 . You might get him to do a low fill and give you a report on the noise level . Marvin

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Re: TALON 24 INCH BARREL 2500 FILL
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2009, 01:25:37 AM »
Marvin did you do any strings with 2600, 2700, 2800, 2900, 3000? With the Crosman 10.5 Gr. premier heavies.
Beeman RX-1 .177 Cal./  http://www.talontunes.com    T.T./A.F. Condor .22 Cal. Thanks Tony.