Author Topic: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?  (Read 24245 times)

Offline TCups

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RE: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2009, 10:28:04 PM »
Actually, the AA -S410 ERB side lever does have adjustable power, and while the Cyclone may be a bit quieter, the difference is "pfffftt vs. pffftT!".  Either is very quiet.  The AA-S410 trigger has a bit of side to side slack and the safety is a button built in to the top of the trigger blade itself (odd, and I think a bit dangerous as you have to press on the side of the trigger of a loaded weapon to set or release the safety).  But the second stage is quite crisp.  It's not the match grade trigger on my Walther LGR-U or even the IZH-46M, but it is a very nice trigger and I haven't felt compelled to do any trigger work or adjustments on it.  But as I say, when I shot Gene's FX Cyclone, I really liked that rifle as well.  Fine trigger.  In the composite stock, much lighter than the AA-S410 in walnut, if that makes a difference.

But the real answer, if money is no object:  Buy them ALL!

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Re: GENE If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2009, 11:24:19 PM »
TCups I like your answer:  Buy them all!  However, when I say money is not object, I mean "for one gun".  I can hear myself say, "Honey I just spent $8,000.00 on pellet guns". Then she would say "you can only shoot one pellet gun!  The next day she would be visiting Jared's.  So then it would cost me $16,000.00 for a few pellet guns.  Then I flash back 50 years ago when I was shooting a $5 red riders.
It's just to bad I could not have all of these pellet guns on a range and be able to shoot each and everyone one.
Kirby - That fancy pellet gun.  In my opinion that's the ugliest stock I've ever seen.  Now if this was walnut another story.  Just my taste.  Thanks for looking it up for me.
Gene - In your opinion which is the better gun for you?  AA S410 or the Cyclone?
Has anyone have or shot the Daystate's 35, 50 or 80's?

Thanks so much for your inputs.  After I decide on this issue will ask advice on air tanks.

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Re: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2009, 05:50:30 AM »
I`ve seen a few U.K guys talk about the Daystates on their forums.  Don`t think I`ve seen it mentioned in North America though.
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Re: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2009, 06:55:35 AM »
Getting ready to call AOA and ask their opinion on the Daystates as compared to Cyclones and AA S410.  Will see what they have to say.

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Re: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2009, 07:39:33 AM »
In my opinion, the FX Cyclone has the edge over my AA410 Classic. First thing is the FX Cyclone weighs less. The second thing is in my own opinion the FX Cyclone has the edge on accuracy. Since I always prefere lighter weight air rifles the FX would be my choice between the two.
THE ONES I SLEEP WITH: BSA Lightning XL, AA TX-200, AA ProSport, BSA Ultra, HW-97K, Crosman NPSS .177, FX Cyclone, HW-30 Nicle Plated, AA-S200, Crosman Marauder, CZ-634, R-9 DG, Webley/Scott UK Tomahawk, Benji Kantana, Benji Marauder, Benji Discovery.....
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Accuracy....
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2009, 08:23:59 AM »
I gotta tell`ya, guys, it don't get no better`n this:

http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=13152&mid=104745#M104745

(`cepting maybe the 18gr JSB Exact Heavies which are printing precisely same-hole groups in the 15 yards from my dining room table to the washing machine over the last two days.)

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Re: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2009, 01:57:28 PM »
Here is what I was getting two years ago just after I bought my FX Cyclone. I was getting used to shooting a PCP. Had been shooting mostly all springers up to buying my FX Cyclone.
THE ONES I SLEEP WITH: BSA Lightning XL, AA TX-200, AA ProSport, BSA Ultra, HW-97K, Crosman NPSS .177, FX Cyclone, HW-30 Nicle Plated, AA-S200, Crosman Marauder, CZ-634, R-9 DG, Webley/Scott UK Tomahawk, Benji Kantana, Benji Marauder, Benji Discovery.....
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Re: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2009, 06:13:12 PM »
Dang MEHavey and Gene_SC.....now I want a Cyclone even more!!!!  Great accurate shooting guys.
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Re: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2009, 09:33:00 PM »
MEhavey - WOW. 75 yards!  That's what I'am talking about.  Show what you can do at 100 yards, full power.  I bet that will test your skills?
Gene - Great shooting too.  I have a springer, Diana 54, tuned and from 0-50 yards dead on and not very hold sensitive.  I love that gun.  Now I want one 50-100.  Equals: PCP  Hence.  So if money were no object which PCP would you buy!

Where else can you learn so much.

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Re: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2009, 10:01:16 PM »
Well I have to say this guys, is that I got bored very easily shooting the FX. Springer's are so much more of a challenge to shoot straight than a PCP... I bet I do not even have one tin of pellets total in my two PCP's..:) But I have shot literally thousands and thousands of pellets through my springers. The gratification of taming a springer is so much more fun for me..:) I love my springers and just cannot keep my hands off of them..:)
THE ONES I SLEEP WITH: BSA Lightning XL, AA TX-200, AA ProSport, BSA Ultra, HW-97K, Crosman NPSS .177, FX Cyclone, HW-30 Nicle Plated, AA-S200, Crosman Marauder, CZ-634, R-9 DG, Webley/Scott UK Tomahawk, Benji Kantana, Benji Marauder, Benji Discovery.....
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Re: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2009, 11:14:13 PM »
LOL.  Well, Gene, I have to say that a few of the critters in my back yard got "bored" very easily after I got the PCP, too - straight through their furry little heads.

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RE: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2009, 01:41:46 AM »
Well I thought I had my choice all boiled down to a AA410.  Now after seeing these results from the cyclones both the 75 and the 30 yd groups...  I'm all confused again!  I like the looks of the AA410 a little better.  But there are no AA410's to be had currently.  I was told that the factory being shut down they will have new shipment arrive next week and the week after.  And since I have been forced to wait this long, I'm going to wait and hear the details when the BSA R-10 will be available and the costs.  

I like the clean traditional lines most of the AA410 and the Cyclone.  But the BSA R-10 seems to have a lot of the missing features that was missing from the Cyclone and AA410.  Quick fill and pressure guage.  Few more shots, and US import power still to be defined...  Show starts this morning.  So hopefully we hear some details later today?

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RE: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2009, 02:02:10 AM »
You did see the 30 yard 10-shot groups I posted with the AA S410 ERB w/ CP's, right?  And that off a tripod rest, not a full bench.

http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=13477&mid=107766#M107766

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Re: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2009, 02:41:24 AM »
FX Revolution semi-automatic system that uses wasted air to cycle the bolt and index the magazine.  Based on a solid design, FX incorporated a new 12-shot magazine to allow for more shots while reducing the time between shots to zero!  Due to the efficiency of the semi-automatic system, the FX Revolution is extremely quiet without the use of any additional components.  The the air bottle is in the butt of the rifle with an ambidextrous synthetic cheek piece formed neatly around it.  The manual bolt lever enables the rifle to be safely loaded and refilled without any risk of misfire.  Along the right side of the Revolution is a cleverly designed safety that prevents the semi-automatic rifle from firing.  The FX Revolution delivers 28-32 ft/lbs of consistent energy with seemingly no felt recoil, and the repeating mechanism is smooth and positive.  The rifle supplies 60-70 shots per fill, and they go by quickly when the rifle is used at its potential!  The FX Revolution is sure to supply rapid fire enjoyment along with single shot precision.  FX created a combination that stands alone with nothing in its class to compare with. This is what I would get if I had the money. but  $1695 plus a pump or a way to fill it. would buy me alot of are gun's

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RE: If money were no object which PCP would you buy?
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2009, 02:53:12 AM »
You can pretty much bet on the R10 being about 23 FPE in .177 and 30 FPE in .22.
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