Any real differences between Hunter 440 .177 and .22

[raterminator]

Hi guys, just registered today, following the only working link left on Charlie’s site  
Could anyone tell me, if there are any real differences between Hunter 440 .177 (which I own and like a lot) and 440, .22, except the caliber? Powerhouse, spring length/strength? I’m trying to justify the need to go after the quickly vanishing 1250. If 440, .22 can do the job on small game at 30-40 yards; I rather prefer shorter and lighter 440 instead of 1250. I couldn’t get a response to that one on Yellow Forum.

[Gene_SC]

you do not like heavy rifles then you may want to save your money. I own a Gamo Hunter 1250 and I love it. It shoots very very hard. Love to blow up plastic soda bottles filled with water... I just became a new owner of a Gamo 440 but the stock was cracked. I ordered a new stock and I am waiting on it from Gamo. I have not shot it yet but I would probably compare it with my S1K.  .177 and  .22. They are great all around pellet rifles.
I will be taking the Gamo 440 on my next squirrel hunt to see how she performs.. Will let you know.

One thing is that the 1250's kill range is quite abit further than any other Gamo that I own.

Gene

[raterminator]

Thanks, Gene.

I have nothing against the 1250, but I would only get it if the 440 coudn't get the "job" done at midrange distance.

My 440 in .177 is very powerful and accurate. On 17 yards, Gamo Magnum pellet passes through a rat, big plastic garbage canister behind it and landing into a wooden fence. Too much penetration, and that’s why now I’m thinking more about the knocking power of a .22. But if the Gamo is using the same exact springs in both calibers, doesn’t it reflect on the guns performance with much heavier pellets? At what distance could a .22 be reliable and have enough power to humanly kill any small game?

As for a stock on 440; it’s kind of bulky and not designed the way I would prefer it to be and I’m planning to do some wood work on mine. It could be nice to have something like this, but I’m afraid it would cost twice more than the rifle itself.

[Gene_SC]

Like I said, I have the S1K .177 and S1K .22 "Black Shadow"  and if I am not mistaken, it has the same power plant as the Gamo 440 .177 and .22.  But for someone who would know. It is CharlieDaTuna, cause he has worked on them all.

I have used my S1K for squirrels and it gets the job done at 30 to 40 yards for sure. Anything past that, I would use the 1250. Not that I could not put a hole in a squirrel at 50 yards but it would be inhumane. "Not a Clean Kill". Or you would have to be a dang good shot to hit the squirrel in a vital place ever time at that distance

All of my Kills have been around 40 yards or closer with the S1K.

Now, I want to say this. I do not eat squirrels. I do not kill them for slaughter. There is a man who is very poor that lives a mile from me and he loves squirrel stew. He gets all my catch of squirrels. He skins them and dresses them out right on his back porch.

So there ya go..    

Ask the expert on the power plants, velocities etc.. Dat would be CharlieDaTuna

Gene

[CharlieDaTuna]

intent and purposes they are identical internally and the only difference I have seen, and that was only in a couple of them, was the tophat. I don't really know why because it was only in one or two of all that I have been through. But the power plants themselves are identical.

[raterminator]

Thanks, Bob

have you tried heaver pellets to slow them down a bit? Like the 10.5 grain premiers or Kodiaks or any pellet with a simular weight?  It should give your more "womp" ad the end and a bit less penatration as well. worth a try.

[vinceb]

Same holds true for the powerplants and triggers in the 890, 440, 220, and Shadow. Stocks and sights are the primary difference, according to Gamo.