Metal RWS Diana TO5 triggers. DROP IN !

[C.A.P]

Well after some complaints  of my own and others. I am proud to offer a few RWS metal Triggers. They can be had in black matte or polished metal. If interested PM me ! I have a few here now and will be able to get more if needed.  These are drop in for the TO5 trigger. No modding at all. One pin and its on. Not only does it give your rifle that custom look it feels better on the finger. I have tuned these triggers to 1 lb with ease. NO FLEX like the plastic.

[Cougar]

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[Gene_SC]

I have never felt any flex with a plastic Diana trigger. I hope this mod is truly safe CAP. I would think the only advantage would be that it is metal and not plastic. Are you making these yourself or having someone else make them for you? Are you testing these blades before you are shipping them?

They look good CAP, just concerned of the safety issue.

[Phil_B]

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[Phil_B]

The boys over at the DW would eat these up..  How much $$$ are you asking I may need 1-2-3....

[GoodOlRWS45]

makes me wonder why RWS didn't make them in metal to begin with.

[CharlieDaTuna]

I too have never felt any "flex" in the trigger other than the pivot play and for all intent and purposes there really isn't anything wrong with the RWS plastic trigger other than the ergonomics of it. It's just the concept of it being plastic. It is easier and far less expensive to manufacture it by plastic injection molding rather than a truly CNC machined precision part. Several people have made them in the past but had little success mostly because of inconsistant or poor quality plus the time and cost involved and found that it wasn't worth it.

 I have had quite a few people ask me if I have them available or if I  were ever going to make them over the years . In fact a couple of years ago we did a basic lay it out and programmed it for CNC machining and were able to tighten up the tolerances on it considerably and it did make a little improvement overall.  We made a couple dozen but never followed through with it because to do it right it's not an inexpensive thing to do.  I felt that there was no real distinct advantage, gain or value to the customer other than the fact that it was metal rather than plastic and with that in mind  I held off.

 I do still give it some thought from time to time though and it was brought up again just a few weeks ago and I still get requests quite often.  I also have a pretty long customer waiting list in the event that I ever would start to make them in the future. In fact Gene asked my to give it some thought again a couple of weeks ago. Who knows....?        One thing for sure... it wouldn't take long to do a little redesigning to improve the ergonomics of it and then set up to start the process. Just need to make up the master jigs for mass production. If I were to make them, they would be of the same excellence, quality, workmanship and detail as the GRT-III trigger.

[TCups]

I have a Paul Watts tuned Diana 34 Panther with an near match-grade plastic trigger that I can assure you, with absolute certainly, is not a "toy".  When I put this one to my shoulder, the last thing I think about -- no that's wrong -- one thing I NEVER think about is what the trigger is made of, plastic or otherwise.  What I think about is that I am about to hit exactly where I am aiming.  And I just traded off a Diana 48 / .20 cal to Johnny Quest with another custom trigger job done on a rifle with a plastic trigger that is superb.  So I show you, here, two guns that, except in the sense of a grown man's "toy", are very serious air rifles and excellent shooters with plastic triggers.  But good luck with your trigger replacements.  I am sure it is a matter of preference if not function.

[3n00n]

Just like the plastic triggerWalther LGR or plastic triggerFWB 300, I like the plastic Diana 75Utrigger shoe, too. The sporter rifles work quite well, also though . . .

So! Whadda ya know? Thought triggers just can't be any good, unless they're made of metal . . .

Whuwooddathunkkit?

[TCups]

Oops.  J is right!  Here is the link to the Walther LGR-U, an Olympic class target rifle, and another or my toys.

http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=11311&posts=14&highlight=walther%20LGR-U&highlightmode=1#M88056

[Gene_SC]

Ya CAP, I think that is exactly what he is saying..

[TCups]

Hey, CAP, not mob concern, bro.  Just saying that I have some very fine air guns with plastic triggers.  The notion that plastic trigger = cheap air rifle is just incorrect.  But to be sure, there may be those who much prefer a metal trigger.  That's fine too.  That's all.

[Timmyj1959@yahoo.com]

(Take it at Face Value:) The GRT111 trigger is a drop in replacement that fits MANY airguns that may or may not have potential to become fine shooters. (IMO most airguns it fits in fall in the "able" catagory).  Be it known,,,, other than the fact that "Mr. Bob" is a personal Friend of mine,,, I have,, in NO way any fiscal interest in my own PERSONAL opinions stated here.  The GRT111 trigger  fits many of what many consider "low end" springer guns. (Many may call them "Diamonds in the Rough") Ihave owned MANY of these type guns. The OEM triggers on these guns in most cases are,,,,, well,,,, HORIBLE to say the least. (It would be hard in most cases to design worse).  The GRT 111 trigger changes these type guns,,,,, all of a sudden,, you have a truly adjustable trigger,,two stage adjustment,,,nice predictable pull,,,all of a sudden,,, you KNOW when your gun is gonna fire!!  ( I just layed my finger on one today)  Im not postin this as to the greatness of the GRT111 trigger,,everyone "in the know" knows about em. My point is,,,(Man did I get sidetracted). Lots of Folks get all worked up about the Diana plastic triggers. Everyone that REALLY knows me here knows I am a Diana fan. (RWS for those that call em that,,RWS is the exporter,,,Diana makes em) Ihave NEVER had ANY problem with Diana "plastic" triggers. If,,,,however,,,"Mr Bob" ever decides to spend the tens of thousands of dollars it will MOST CERTAINLY take to develop,,,, a SAFE,,,,RELIABLE,,,ASTHETICLY PLEASING,, Trigger for Diana guns,,,, rest assured,,,,,Im gonna get one with a really low serial # on it. In the mean time,,,,I will just be happy with my T-01,s & T-05,s!!  Now,,,,,,I gotta work on gettin back my old Diana 24!! :p   Just my 2 cents. Tim.

[Timmyj1959@yahoo.com]

As usual,,,,My one finger typin butt cant keep up,,,,,,,,,,,,,see my post above,,,"My 2 cents".  Not tryin to "stirr the pot" so to speak,,,,,, Just wanted to contribute to an otherwise "healthy debate"    Tim.

[tjk]

I never was too keen on the Diana's plastic trigger myself. But after a while, I just got used to it. As a matter of fact,....the one thing I don't like about it is the slight side to side "play" in it. I'm not sure if this could even be remedied with a steel/alum trigger. My trigger finger placement on the Diana is between the pad of my finger tip and the first knuckle,....this  position has given me the most consistant 'feel', groupings, and accuracy. Seems like this trigger finger placement varies on every one of my rifles. If there was one thing I would like to see improved on the stock Diana triggers,...it would be something like a checking pattern etched/scribed for a little additional added grip. I do like the straighter blade configuration as opposed to a more curved shaped triggers in general. Bro' DerekinMinn has turned me unto the idea of using an after-market trigger assist, called 'the EZ-pull" trigger. I might give that a try on my "non GRT-III accepting" rifles. They claim to lighten the trigger pull so it might be worth a "shot"!!!! lol's Sorry CAP,....don't mean to deter anyone from your DI trig,...because it is a legitamite concept and I wish you success. Just my thoughts from my personal experience with the Diana tigger. tjk