Question: Crosman phantom

Does anyone know definitively if the Crosman Phantom is the same action as the Crosman Quest?

A friend has purchased one recently, It would be interesting to know its specs. The ABS plastic stock seems well designed and solid, it has the standard Gamo style trigger and action looks similar from the outside. Do the Quest spring specs match this rifle?

cheers

Greyskull

[CharlieDaTuna]

I've had a few of them down and although I didn't actually measure them, they are like the Gamo action and also similar to the Quest. I used everything and did everything just like it was a Gamo. Nothing strange about it at all. I'm also pretty sure for the most part that the Phantom and the Quest are quite similar but I myself never use the Crosmans Chinese replacement tuning parts when I go through them or the Gamo's. Nothing but Maccari's parts....always have...always will.  . I know there are some that stand by them but I know the difference

[vinceb]

...as confirmed by Crosman's CS department.

I know what Charlie says about the Chinese guts, and he's got a point. I recently had a B19 trigger wear out (the edges around the sear mating surfaces rounded off) due to loose tolerances and possibly a softer material. FYI - the B19 is what the Quest was before Crosman started distributing them.

Also, I've had 2 Chinese springs break (the B19 and a B22), and none in a Gamo (although it can happen).

Now, it's possible that Crosman got the Chinese factory to up it's quality control, but I'm not sure that this has been sufficiently borne out by experience just yet. On the other hand, if you need a fairly inexpensive "drop-in" repair for a Gamo spring, Crosman Quest parts are pretty much the only option out there. You can get a spring and tophat delivered for about $12, and it'll be a better fit on a Gamo guide than the Gamo spring was. Will it last? Again, this is stll something of an unknown.

By the same token, though... my Quest (after a new factory seal and spring) does shoot unusually hard - even after probably 1000 shots. It consistently spits out CPL's at about 930 or so... none of my stock Gamo's have been able to match that. Of course, maybe I just got lucky...

Thanks both for your informative replies. This rifle is not a candidate for tuning, but the repair info is always handy to have. We have a quite strict consumer guarantees law here, but in the realms of air rifles most in the know would just buy the replacement part and install themselves. Cheaper and quicker.

Having given the rifle a good inspection from the outside (he hadn't even taken the price tag off yet) I thought it had a good finish. We will see as he gets some use out of it whether it cuts the mustard. Its a first sporting air rifle for him, as he makes the transition from 10m target to FT ranges. I told him to get a cheap rifle to start as they are not like cars, u don't trade them in u just collect more as you go. (right Gene?)

Thanks again, and I am sure there is a GTX III in its near future.

regards GS