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Offline sshewins

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cocking effort
« on: March 02, 2009, 02:02:46 AM »
If they both shoot at 1000 fps, why does it take 30 ft lbs to cock the shadow sport vs 36 on the big cat?
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RE: cocking effort
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 02:34:59 AM »
could be the diameter or longitud of the spring and could be the longitud of the Lever arm either.
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Re: cocking effort
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 02:37:50 AM »
I do not own either of those models. Perhaps the barrel lengths are different then that may be why one is 30 and the other is 36.  But both have exactly the same power plants.
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Re: cocking effort
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2009, 03:01:14 AM »
Oops, the cat requires 38 lbs.  Would there be any issues with these or just simply, ones easier to cock than the other?
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Re: cocking effort
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2009, 03:30:54 AM »
Both are break barrel.  According to gamo's website, the shadow is 43" OAL and the cat is 43.3" OAL.  Both have 18" barrels.  Must have something to do with springs.
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Re: cocking effort
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2009, 04:16:41 AM »
NO, the springs are the same and the cocking linkage is the same. It could be a misprint or just plain old marketing ploy..:)
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Re: cocking effort
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2009, 11:15:26 AM »
Simple all, it is a sales gimmic to help those who are on the fence decide why it is okay to spend so much more money for the same performance. Truth in advertising in the airgun world is not something that is highly monitored, if at all. So, if you were using the same powerplant in multiple guns, some costing nearly double others, you would need to show SOME performance advantages, and who among us, other than a few, really check this out.
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RE: cocking effort
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2009, 10:25:24 AM »
Ha ha ha... I have to laugh.  I called Gamo and asked that same question.  They did not know until I said, "Maybe they have different springs or something"  The answer then came to them... Yes, the Big Cat has a different spring...   I have called them for several questions and am always amazed about the lack of knowledge they have about thier own products...  Very sad...

If they don't know just say so and get someone who does.. Sorry to say it but, in my very limited experience, Gamo customer service has been a joke.