If anyone's looking for some cheap practice/plinking pellets, MikeinIowa can get them for you at a great price! He sent me 5 tins of.177 and two tins of .22 Peak pellets for a very reasonable cost. Like Mike said to me, they seem to work best in med to moderate speed AG's, which has proven to be a pretty accurate desciption of these pellet's performance. Not the match grade quality by any stretch, but they shoot great groups in my 10 meter/yard shooters (sub 700 fps rifles). I might try to clean them with some brake disc spray as they are kind of heavy on the graphite/?whatever? coating. But for the price, you can't beat it for spinning spoons and murdering aluminium beverage cans!!!!! LOL's tjk