Hey shadow, good comment. That name, of Christ's many names, is one of my favorites. As a sidenote, in Hebrew, Christ's number is the number EIGHT, and His Fathers number is SEVEN. Man's number is SIX, and Lucifer's is NINE. We could spend a lot of time discussing what these numbers are, relative to Hebrew letters, but the point of this thread is that I wondered if you thought something was as neat as I did. With Christ's (Yeshua's) number being the number EIGHT in Hebrew, it is more than coincidence I believe, that the number EIGHT on it's side is the universal symbole for what- --INFINITY! As you said Shadow, Christ is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. Cool stuff. Thanks for making me think about that tonight. Ross