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Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« on: April 14, 2009, 05:10:04 AM »
(sorry I posted this in the wrong place -- & I can't delete it in Target gate)

Long story short... picked up a Gamo Hunter Pro & immediately ordered
Charlie's trigger -- he led me to this site & I'm already learning alot.  Great
show you folks are running here.

I was hoping to get some feedback on the Hunter Pro as I can't seem to
find any info for it online -- opinions / reviews / performance / mods / tunes /
maintenance .. all that kind of stuff.

Picked it up local and it was the Hunter Pro or the Big Cat -- both there
$300 -- I liked the feel of the Hunter Pro -- mostly the wood stock -- and
the action/specs looked identical.

Needless to say I'm having a blast with this thing.

Can anyone shed some light on the Hunter Pro?  Thoughts?  is there a diff
between it and the Cat?  Also -- any insight into pellets this thing likes?

Again, sorry about the cross post.

-Tony

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RE: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2009, 07:17:15 AM »
Somone was asking 300 bucks for a Big Cat????
Bob


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RE: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2009, 08:02:09 AM »
Dick's Sporting Goods.
In all honesty, it could've been a Varmint Hunter?
I'm in Philly -- air guns here are a no-no, so I had to do alot of running around.
No one seems to want to ship here either.

I was seeing synthetic dark gray stocks everywhere.

Prices were 299 and 199.
Hunter Pro was 299 along with what I thought was the Big Cat.

Hunter Pro combo was with a BSA 3-9x40.

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Re: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2009, 08:23:06 AM »
I think they are all the same gun, just in different clothes. So its probably a decent gun, just needs to be shot.
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RE: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2009, 08:40:15 AM »
Hi, and welcome to the GTA family.  The guys and ladies on this site can't be beat when it comes to their willingness to help you.

What I personally call the 1200/1000 series of Gamo rifles are identical in terms of powerplant.  Gamo's marketing department adds different bling to individual rifles in order to sell them at different prices and market them as different models.  For all intents and purposes the Hunter Pro is simply a Big Cat with a wooden stock.  By the way, if a retailer is selling a Big Cat for 300 bucks, he's commiting a felony...the felony is called rape....

Many of the other members will chime in about their own rifle's favorite pellet.  Once each barrel is seasoned or breaks-in through use, only trial and error (meaning trying different brands and types of pellets) will result in a "best" pellet for your rifle.  In my own 2 Gamo's, the JSB Exact, Gamo Rocket and Crosman Premier Hollowpoint (CPHP) perform very well...the JSB Exact slightly better then the other two.

Don't use the PBA Raptors in your rifle...the pellet is too light and can cause early early parts failure...ie, broken spring.  On the other hand, don't use a too heavy pellet either since this can result in the same failure.  I've been advised by several folks I consider knowledgable not to use anything lighter than 7.5 gr. or anything heavier then 9 gr. pellets in order to maximize spring life.

You may be in luck with the BSA 3x9x40 scope.  The OEM Gamo branded scope is a POS which I wouldn't have the faith to put on an airsoft rifle and expect to last more then a day or so.

Compared to the other members on this forum who will be on here later, I know absolutely nothing about springers. They will give you the best advice...just take heed of what they say.
Bob


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RE: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2009, 09:04:23 AM »
Welcome to GTA,,, nice to have you with us  ..

Bob basically said pretty near all that needs to be said.   Your power plant is indeed the same as the other Gamos in the line.  Getting Bob's triggers was the best thing  you could've done, that will aid accuracy tremendously.  

As for pellets,, Bobs adivice on pellet weight is correct.  Stay in that range and you'll be fine.  

Each rifle likes different pellets so try a selection of whatever you can get.  My suggestion would be try the cheap Crosman Premier Hollow Points that Walmart sells dirt cheap,,, if you're gun likes em you will have a steady supply of cheap accurate pellets that are actually good hunting pellets.  

Make sure you clean the barrel really well with "Goo Gone" and patches.  Don't use any regular (powder burner) firearm solvents in your rifle, all you need is some "Goo Gone" run through the barrel using a length of "weed whacker" line as a pull through.  

Let us know how you make out with rifle and I'll be looking forward to your future posts...

Jeff
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Re: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2009, 09:10:57 AM »
A Big Welcome aboard Tony. Looks like Bob and Jeff  have pretty much covered your question.

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RE: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2009, 10:33:16 AM »
Man, I gotta be getting old or the meds are fuzzin my melon.  

I forgot something important.  

Make sure to get yourself a nice set of T-handle Torx wrenches if you don't have any already.  Gamo likes to use Torx on their rifles.  It makes more sense to spend a couple of dollars on a nice set of wrenches then it does to round out the tops of the screws by trying to get by with an allen wrench.  Plus, I think the allen wrench Gamo provides with their rifles is made out of aluminum foil.  You can also use the Torx to tighten the scope mount and rings on your rifle.  

Jeff, (Longislandhunter,) has a great way to make sure the mount and rings don't come loose.  Clean the scope rail, screws and screwholes with alcohol.  After drying the parts, use a dab of "blue" loctite on the screws, tighten and let set for 24 to 48 hours.  Works great!  With about 3000 shots through my son's Viper and about 1000 shots through my other son's 220, I have yet to see one screw come loose.

Use the same process on your stock screws, the screw behind your trigger and the 2 screws (1 on each side) of your barrel.  You'll thank Jeff...

God, I can't believe I forgot that part.....
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Re: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2009, 11:25:27 AM »
Thanks all for the feedback!
Bob, I couldn't help laugh out loud reading your post -- after I got the thing,
and put about 50 shots through it, I noticed a slight flex in the stock while cocking.
Though to check the screws and sure enough they all needed snugging up --
or course I didn't have any torx on-hand so it was cuss'n and spitt'n with screw
drivers and allen wrenches.

I gave up before doing any damage.  I'll pick some up pronto.

I'm not sure who mounted the scope on this gun -- the screws are incredibly
tight there, one is even starting to round out (these are allen on the scope).

I did notice the scope is mounted on another "lifter" rail (don't know what its
called) -- though it doesn't look to be necessary.  the scope has a positive stop
on the rail.. and the rail has a positive stop on the barrel.  I don't think I can
move my scope around to adjust for eye relief.

All this aside I'm having a blast .. I drink too much coffee to get anything better
than 4" groups at 15yards, but I'm try'n.

Thanks again, all.

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Re: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2009, 01:26:42 AM »
The "lifter rail" you referred to, I simply refer to it as a mounting rail, though I'm certain it has a "proper" name, has an 11mm dovetail which matches that machined into the receiver of your rifle.  The top of the rail steps down to a 3/8" dovetail which is used by the scope mount.  Some people like them, (I do) and some people prefer to have the mount attached directly to the receiver.  If you decide to remove the rail, make sure you get a scope mount with an 11mm dovetail and rings which match the outer diameter of your scope...in this case, 1 inch..also ensure the mount includes a scope stop to help keep the mount from slipping.  Almost everyone agrees a one-piece mount is the only way to go with a springer, especially the more powerful "magnum" springers.  Leapers, out of Livonia, Michigan, sells scopes and mounts through many of the online retailers.  If you check the Mall at the top of the page, it'll take you to many of the most popular.  Leapers imports a Chinese scope with the Leapers name on it along with scope mounts to fit virtually any scope made.  There are also "rebagged" Leapers scopes from Centerpoint and, if I'm not mistaken, UTG.  Look in your mail inbox and you'll see what I mean.  You can purchase a very nice Centerpoint scope from Walmart for around 70 bucks.  I've got a couple of them...though one just died, they're easy to replace...just take it back to Walmart.

Dude, if you're getting 4" groups at 15 yards, you're doing about 2x as well as I did when I shot my first springer...I don't care how much coffer ya drink.  Seriously though, just keep practicing.  I've found the springers to be very hold sensitive (though the Diana isn't as bad as the Gamo's,) so it's simply going to be a matter of shooting them until you find the body position and hold your rifle prefers.  Generally speaking, the more loosely you hold the rifle and the less pressure you exert on her, the happier she's gonna be.
Bob


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RE: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2009, 02:00:34 AM »
Bob,

Gamo may have already  heard you about that  rail and mount. My Whisper (bought back in Febuary) came with a one piece mount.

The rail on mine is the same 11mm width groove as the gun, so I took the rail off,  flipped the one piece mount end-for-end so that the mount's alinement pin lines up with the hole in the reciever and put it  directly onto the reciever. They must have intended for it to be used that way also, because the mount now sits right where the Gamo scope and now my Tasco scope need it to be.

I can't see why Gamo would add that rail in the first plac,  since it doesn't grab any better than the one piece scope mount can. And in raising the scope higher it just makes trajectory and getting a good cheek- weld worse.

If you take the rail off, beware !

My one piece scope mount has a loosly threaded alinement pin that was sticking out quite abit. Not a problem when it was sitting on the rail because the hole in the rail is deep. But, make sure the pin doesn't extend down more than the thickness of the metal of reciever, or it may hit the piston.  Good idea to also lock-tite that pin once you get it set to proper depth.

Paul.
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Re: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2009, 04:14:25 AM »
I'll get a better look when I break it all down -- I want to replace the screws
with something of a little better quality.  I wonder how stainless would look
with the gold trigger. :)

Cleaned it out last night, too.  More dirt came out that I expected considering
its only seen about 200 or so pellets so far.  Granted, I didn't clean it right out
of the box.  Is a bronze brush ok for air rifles, or should I just stick to the cleaning
pads?  Bronze brush came in my cleaning kit.

Also need to figure out how to get a shoulder strap attached to this thing.  I
saw some talk on here about mounting methods, but the beech stock seems
so thin near the top that I'd be worried about it breaking if I mounted to only
one side.

Weather is lousy here -- but I'm prepping for the weekend -- got a box of
gamo paper targets and a bottle of muscle relaxers to keep the shaking to a
minimum :)

Can't wait for my trigger.

Thanks again.
Tony

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RE: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2009, 06:18:20 AM »
Tony,

Once you get that trigger replaced, I think you'll find you won't have to give up the coffee.

A sling? try reading this thread. ,
 http://www.gatewaytoairguns.com/airguns/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=16256&posts=6&start=1

Wal-Mart, and Natchez carry the Uncle Mike's swivels with the combo of machine and wood screw. The machine screw is the same thread as the front stock screws. Using the stock screw is stronger because it mounts the strap to the reciever without interfering with how the stock mounts to the reciever.

 For the lower swivel  I drilled a pilot hole and used the wood screw into a thick part of the plastic on the underside of the stock near the recoil pad.

Paul.

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Re: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2009, 11:21:48 PM »
DO NOT use a bronze brush...Jeff, (Longislandhunter) gave you the ideal way to clean the barrel in his previous post.  Put the purdy little bronze brush back in its purdy little case and save it for your powder burners.  Also, check your mail inbox....
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Re: Gamo Hunter Pro -- Thoughts?
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2009, 05:35:41 AM »
Well I haven't gotten the trigger yet.. but I noticed a definite change last night..
I could actually feel the second stage in the stock trigger.  Probably about 250
shots through it now, but I was surprised at the sudden change.  Not sure if it
was the gun, or me finally noticing.

I also tried shooting from a "bench" for the first time.. just a stack of pillows on
the back of a chair.  I got ~2" groups at 15yrds with wadcutters.  I'm feeling
alot better about the pictures I'm seeing online.  Off-hand still aint so pretty.

I put in some Gamo Rockets and was surprised how much lower it was shooting
at the same 15yrd target.  I always expect the flatter trajectory (which is what
I think caused the "drop") to go the other direction.. ie.. a flatter trajectory
should shoot higher.  

I'll get this all straightened out soon enough.  :)

-Tony

PS Paul, thanks for that swivels tip.   I'll have a look around.